Editor’s note: To some, this information will seem blasphemous. Please note that Cannabis is an ancient herbal remedy and has only recently been considered a street drug. Cannabis was included in the US Pharmacopoeia until 1942, . We are not saying Jesus depended on herbs to heal, but the facts seem to show that He did indeed utilize them.
Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published [in 2003].
The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings. The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett [reprinted here].
The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims. “There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion,” Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University said. Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in ceremonies, he added: “Obviously the easy availability and long-established tradition of cannabis in early Judaism would inevitably have included it in the [Christian] mixtures.”
Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were “literally drenched in this potent mixture …. Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin”.
Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases referred to in the Gospels. “If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ,” Mr Bennett concludes. (Source: Gaurdian.co.uk)
Bennet isn’t alone in his assertions…
“According to some scholars, cannabis was an ingredient of holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts. The herb of interest is most commonly known as kaneh-bosm (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם) (the singular form of which would be kaneh-bos) which is mentioned several times in the Old Testament as a bartering material, incense, and an ingredient in holy anointing oil used by the high priest of the temple.
The Septuagint translates kaneh-bosm as calamus, and this translation has been propagated unchanged to most later translations of the old testament. However, Polish anthropologist Sula Benet published etymological arguments that the Aramaic word for hemp can be read as kannabos and appears to be a cognate to the modern word ‘cannabis’, with the root kan meaning “reed” or hemp and bosm meaning “fragrant”.
Both cannabis and calamus are fragrant, reedlike plants containing psychotropic compounds. Rabbinical scholars appear to be divided on the subject; some reject the cannabis hypothesis and others affirm it.” (Source: Wikipedia – Religious and spiritual use of cannabis)
Cannabis vs. calamus:
Debate over the translation of kaneh-bosem
Sara Benetowa discovered that the Kaneh-Bosm or Cannabis is mentioned 5 times in the Old Testament. The first occurrence appears in the Holy Anointing Oil as Calamus, (Exodus 30:23). Sara argued that the translation of Calamus was a mistranslation which occurred in the oldest Bible the “Septuagint” and the mistranslation was copied in later versions.”
“If you actually buy the Calamus translation for the Holy Oil, then you assume that God specified in Exodus 30:23 a drug commonly known as herbal Ecstasy. Calamus contains an ingredient called asarone. This is a hallucinogen which is metabolized in the liver as trimethoxyamphetamine which is known as herbal ecstasy. The Middle Eastern version of this plant is far more toxic than its North American Cousin. This is deadly to flies and other insects.
The Exodus 30:23 reference refers to sweet Calamus. If you look at this in the Strong’s concordance where they spell this as qaneh rather than kaneh, they pronounce this as Kaw-Naw, a reed, calamus, and cane are listed as possible translations. The term sweet used in Exodus 30:23 in Hebrew is Bosem. According to the Webster’s New World Hebrew Dictionary, Bosem is perfume; scent. The Concordance: the Hebrew is Bosem #1314, fragrance, by impl. spicery; also the balsam plant:—-smell, spice, sweet (odour).
In some Bibles sweet calamus is translated as aromatic or fragrant Cane. It is where the bosem is fused to the word kaneh or qaneh that the cannabis translation becomes apparent. So then to pronounce this we have kaw-naw-bosem, and is spelled in English qaneh-bosem or kaneh-bosem.
In 1936, Sara Benetowa, later Known as Sula Benet, an etymologist from the Institute of Anthropological Sciences, in Warsaw wrote a treatise, “Tracing One Word Through Different Languages”. This was a study on the word Cannabis, based on a study of the oldest Hebrew texts. Although the word cannabis was thought to be of Scythian origin, Benet’s research showed it had an earlier root in the Semitic Languages such as Hebrew. Benet demonstrated that the ancient Hebrew word for Cannabis is Kaneh -Bosem.
She also did another study called Early Diffusion and Folk Uses of Hemp. On page 44, she states, “The sacred character of hemp in biblical times is evident from Exodus 30:23, where Moses was instructed by God to anoint the meeting tent and all of its furnishings with specially prepared oil, containing hemp.”
On page 41 Sula Benet writes, “In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosem were fused into one , kanabos or kannabus know to us from the Mishna”. According to the Webster’s New World Hebrew Dictionary, page 607 the Hebrew for hemp is kanabos. (Source)
From “Thinking Baptists” The Holy Annointing Oil
In 1980, a wave of interest in Benet’s work prompted numerous etymologists to agree with Benet’s reinterpretation of the word qaneh-bosm in Exodus. That year, scholars at Jerusalem Hebrew University confirmed her work, noting that the qaneh-bosm was mistranslated in the King James version of Exodus 30:23 as calamus (Latimer, 1988). That same year, Weston La Barre also confirmed Benet’s work, noting further that “the term kaneh-bosm occurs as early as both the Aramaic and the Hebrew versions of the Old Testament, hemp being used for rope in Solomon’s temple and in priestly robes, as well as carried in Biblical caravans”.
More Archaeological Evidence Source
A recent archeological expedition to Israel uncovered scrolls that appear to depict the story of Jesus’ crucifixion. On one of the scrolls is a sketch that shows a man, thought to be Jesus, smoking from a pipe. Below the drawing is the Hebrew word “kineboisin”, which translates to cannabis.
Dr. Isaac Cohen, president of the South Israel Archaeological Society, believes that this is an extremely significant discovery for the theological community. He described the discovery as “a finding that could change the way many perceive the world.” Cannabis is known to have been smoked thousands of years before Jesus’ time, but this is the first evidence to show that Jesus himself may have used the plant.
Not only could this mean that Christian fundamentalist may ease up on their firm stance against the use of marijuana, but they may actually begin to promote its use for an enhanced religious experience. It is the Christian belief that Christ’s followers should emulate him. If Jesus smoked weed, then why shouldn’t everyone else? [Editor’s note: Normally we like to reference the original study, we are still looking for it.]
Reverend Tom Brown shows the healing power of the Holy Anointing Cannabis Oil. Tom is helping Jack Herer, who has diabetes. This recipe comes directly from the Bible. The old measures have been substituted with modern measure (see below).
Editor’s note: I was lucky enough to meet the man videotaping this piece. He was given some of the oil and happened to have it with him. Generously, he shared some with me, enough to coat the tips of 2 fingers. I rubbed it on my back where I sustained an injury years ago as well as on my forehead. Intense heat immediately swept over my entire back and finally, my entire body (even though I was sitting in a cold car and could see my breath). In a few minutes, I was very slightly hallucinating. Everything looked as if it were inside a mandala for about an hour – a truly wonderful experience! I remember feeling noticeably healthier the following day.
Exodus 30, verses 22 – 30
22 Then the LORD said to Moses, 23 “Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of fragrant cane, 24 500 shekels of cassia – all according to the sanctuary shekel – and a hin of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil. . . .
Converted into today’s measurements:
liquid myrrh 500 shekels 5.75 kg (12.68 lbs)
cassia 500 shekels 5.75 kg (12.68 lbs)
cinnamon leaf 250 shekels 2.875 kg (6.34 lbs)
cannabis flowers 250 shekels 2.875 kg (6.34 lbs)
olive oil 1 hin 6.5 liters (1.72 gallons)
In the traditional method, all of these ingredients would have been mixed with water and then boiled until all the water evaporated. The oil was then strained and ready for use.
How to make the Holy Anointing Oil – by Reverend Tom Brown:
This is the recipe I have used. It is not exactly the same recipe that is listed in Exodus, it has only one ounce of marijuana instead of fifteen ounces. However, this recipe has been used on human beings and used with prayer, worked to relieve pain. I have used this on a man suffering from Aids, another man with severe upper back pain from a pinched nerve, on a woman with severe lower back pain associated with her monthlys, on a man suffering from rheumatoid arthritis and on myself for various pains and abrasions.
1 pint Organic Sesame Seed oil
1 pint Organic Olive Oil
.06 oz Cinnamon bark oil (Cassia) (1 eighth of a .5 oz bottle)
.06 oz Cinnamon leaf oil (1 eighth of a .5 oz bottle)
1 oz of Myrrh Gum
1 oz of Marijuana
This produces an oil that is much less powerful then the original recipe as 2 pints of oil, or one quart of oil, in the original recipe would have 15 ounces of marijuana flowers, not the 1 ounce I have used. All these ingredients except for the marijuana are available at the local health food store here in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
You need a cooking pot and a Pyrex 4 cup measuring cup. Use a cooking pot with a liner/separator so that the container you cook the oil in is lifted off the bottom of the cooking pot. You need a candy thermometer that will clip onto the side of the pot. You need enough Canola oil to use as the heat transfer medium in the cooking pot.
- Place the pint of Sesame Seed oil in the container with the shredded Marijuana and the Myrrh Gum.
- Place the jar into the cooking pot, on top of the liner/separator.
- Place the Canola oil into the cooking pot up to within 3 inches of the top of the pot – or to the same level of the Sesame Seed oil in the jar – whichever is less.
- Wrap Aluminum foil around the cooking pot lip and crumple it so that the space between the cooking pot and the jar is covered with the foil. This helps cut down on oil fumes and reduces fire hazard from the hot oil. Use an electric stove or hotplate – never use any kind of open flame for this cooking.
- Place the candy thermometer thru the foil and clip it onto the side of the cooking pot so that the sensing tip is immersed in the Canola oil. The Canola oil transfers heat from the stove to the jar at higher temperatures then boiling water at 212 degrees. You want to cook the oil for one hour at 300 degrees. This extracts the active ingredients from the Marijuana and dissolves the Myrrh gum into the oil.
- Remove from the heat and allow it to cool. The glass container is very fragile; do not mess with it until it cools to skin temperature or it will break and you will lose that lot of oil.
- Strain the oil / herb mixture thru a cloth and discard the solids.
- Add the Olive oil, Cinnamon Bark (Cassia) oil and the Cinnamon leaf oil to the cooked Anointing Oil and bottle. Store the Anointing Oil in the refrigerator in a dark colored bottle. Decant into smaller jars for use. (Source)
Rev. Tom Brown
First Church of the Magi
P.O. Box 2827, Fayetteville, Arkansas 72702
Holy Anointing Oil – Wikipedia
Jesus Christ Healed with Marijuana
This is great! Does anyone know if the ‘Sacred Anointing Oil’ is still being made and used today? If so, where is it available? I think it would be a great help to many people. I would buy it for my own family.
Perhaps marijuana dispensaries could be encouraged to make the oil.
It’s “Sweet Flag” otherwise known as “Sweet Calamus” not cannabis.
(Answer was later included in post: Cannabis vs. calamus: debate over the translation of kaneh-bosem)
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Whichever was used the oil was considered sacred and not intended for “public” use.
30 “Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as priests. 31 Say to the Israelites, ‘This is to be my sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. 32 Do not pour it on men’s bodies and do not make any oil with the same formula. It is sacred, and you are to consider it sacred. 33 Whoever makes perfume like it and whoever puts it on anyone other than a priest must be cut off from his people.’ ” Exodus 30:30-33 NIV
That is still in reference to the oil though. The article was about early consumption of cannabis, and how it has been an integral part of our world’s societies all this time. That god put this plant here for our consumption and actually may have urged it’s use on more than a few occasions.
I personally believe the ‘tree of life’ is also in reference to cannabis.
In fact I believe REV22:1-2 talks about the perfect world, whose entry is sided by the tree of life which bears it’s fruit every month of the year. Which does coincide with cannabis’s fruiting cycle. It is also used for healing.
How can the world purged of the evils of eden be perfect, if cannabis is evil, and this ‘perfect world’ contains cannabis?
Still, if the comment I’m replying to holds true, we can’t just go around making the anointing oil. Although, there is still no reason we can not use/consume cannabis alone, or in other mixtures.
There were some comments regarding whether Jesus changed these rules from the Old Testament here (about 1/2 way down the page)
Feel free to correct me, Bible Scholar, but one of the main things about Jesus was he brought the sacred oil to the people, *for* the people. Prior to Jesus it may have been sacrilegious for just anyone to use it, but that was kind of the point of Jesus… a man of the people, be they peasants or otherwise.
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There is nothing in the New Testament about Jesus using oil. There is Mark 6:13 that speaks of the apostles anointing the sick with oil and healing them. It doesn’t say that it was the sacred oil, just that it was oil. One thing to keep in mind was that Jesus didn’t break any of the mosaic laws and seeing as anointing oil was sacred and it’s use illegal for all but the priests, it’s not likely that the apostles would have used the sacred oil.
That seems to be a bit of a stretch. As a Bible Scholar, you should know that the Bible is to be taken in context — with that said, we can see that the sick were “anointed” with oil in Mark 6:13 and the act encouraged in James 5:14.
Even “Christ” means “The Anointed One”, referring to being anointed with oil… oil that one can infer is holy anointing oil.
Aside from contextual clues, if you look at the symptoms that the sick had and were treated with by the oil, it would also strengthen the idea that they were being anointed with the anti-fungal/viral/bacterial oil given in Exodus.
Finally, the same oil was not just reserved for priests. It was used to anoint kings (such as Saul and David) and prophets.
I am in favor of the complete legalization of marijuana. I believe God created marijuana on the Third Day and it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day. Genesis 1:11-13 NIV
I never saw teh word marijuana in my bible.
That’s because your Bible isn’t *the* Bible. Unless you read Hebrew, your Bible is the product of men transcribing the word of God. Though they no doubt did their best in their translations, the fact is that it is completely possible for errors of man to occur (or even politics to come into play).
Actually that’s because the word ‘marijuana’ is a Mexican loan-word, which is only proper in 20th century American English. My translation of the Bible calls it ‘hemp’, according to the article above it is also translated as ‘calamus’ or ‘sweet flag’. There is nothing in the Bible that prohibits the use of cannabis and considering the strictness of Judaic kosher rules, and that the herb was well-known in those times, I think it’s safe to assume that use of cannabis is not a sin – in and of itself. Jesus didn’t break any of the Mosaic laws, but he did challenge unnecessarily strict interpretations of them, for example, by healing on the Sabbath.
Its simply good karma, a spirit for the most part reflecting positive (including silly, or “stupid”) inclinations.
Its more funny than harmful.
– plus its a natural sign of health for a person to be in good spirits.
It is not just that it could have, and has been, mistranslated from Hebrew and Greek, but scholars and monks who translated it had to do it by hand. As they wrote their translations they added notes of their own thoughts in the margins, some of their notes got incorporated into the bible over time. There are parts of the bible that were not originally intended to be written, and how could there not be? We’re human. We can’t do everything perfectly, especially translate old languages over hundreds to thousands of years.
Certainly the image of Jesus stumbling round the holy land doping folk up is a pleasant one.
However it should be noted that this theory is highly speculative. The very notion of the historical Jesus is a difficult one to discern. While it is all but certain there was a teacher-prophet on whom NT scripture is based we know little more than that beyond a few sayings that do seem to be authentic (cf. Bultmann).
In fact the few sayings that are believed to be authentic (a good place to look is the Gospel of Jude Didymus Thomas – an all but contemporary collection of sayings) seem to be related to the Essene school of Judaism. The Essenes were strict aesthetes and it is pretty implausible they used narcotics in their rituals. If indeed Jesus comes from that tradition then it is prima facie unlikely he did either.
Two other points from the original High Times article that should be made clear:
First: the tradition of Baptism that Jesus was a part of almost certainly came from John the Baptist (who conspicuously shows up in almost all the Gospels both orthodox and heretical), and the overwhelming weight of the textual evidence is that his tradition of Baptism was primarily water based.
Second: one has to be really careful when dealing with Gnostic texts. Not only are we completely unsure of dates but pretty much all our primary gnostic texts come from Nag Hammadi and none of the parchments are even close to being contemporary with Jesus. As such dating the time of authorship is a matter of guess work, and you will find theologians disagreeing by up to a century about the same texts!
Moreover, Gnostic texts are huge in scope, and the fact we have united them under one label is more historical accident than anything else. They are complex, contradictory and mostly written in a deeply (and deliberately) unhistorical style; to rope them into an argument about the Historical Jesus is intellectually dubious, bordering on dishonest. (And it is interesting that many of the historians quoted in the High Times piece are talking about the Gnostics and how they lived NOT about the Historical Jesus, and even within that they are far more cautious in thier findings).
At the risk of sounding too sceptical; theories like this come along pretty regularly and they certainly help a few ‘academics’ publish and sell some books (see for example the Mana = magic mushroom theory which was fashionable a few years back). For the most part however they represent the worst and most lazy kind of biblical scholarship.
What a shame. You wrote so much only to throw away all credibility by leading with that first sentence; revealing you know little or nothing about cannabis or its effects.
Ironically, you’ve manage to bash speculation with more speculation on your part. Don’t get me wrong, you make interesting points — but you still manage to ignore the elephant in the room which is the oil issue. Regardless of your translation, the oil contained a psychoactive ingredient… the question is whether or not it was cannabis (rather than the currently accepted translation which says they used a type of herbal ecstasy).
While I applaud your confidence, you have really offered nothing compelling when we look at the larger intent and focus of this discussion. I’d love to see what you can bring to the argument once you’ve focused, though, so feel free to write something new up.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood my point. Whether there is biblical use of cannabis is an interesting question and certainly one that merits study. The question of whether Jesus used a cannabis containing oil is, however, bogus. It is akin to asking if Homer enjoyed eating fish.
We can talk of the kind of world that Jesus would have lived in. We can even talk of rituals that existed around his time. It is the specific claim that lacks any credible evidence. It is, simply put, bad history.
In fact it is worse than that. The only reason why Jesus is roped into the discussion is his ‘blockbuster effect’. Making a claim about ritual in 1st century Palestine simply does not generate much noise. But a claim about the rituals as practised by the man Jesus is sexy enough to garner interest…
As for knowing about cannabis and its effects I have been a regular user for well over a decade now (in fact as I write am smoking some gorgeous black Nepalese hash), but frankly why should that be important here?
Your comparisons are curiously invalid. Comparing the use of something with the opinion/preference/pleasure of something leaves a fairly large gap in logic. We are talking about a book that lists a recipe for a specific type of important oil, and lists people, such as Jesus, using this oil. The only arguments that are valid revolve around what was in the oil, not whether or not it was used — unless you are claiming Jesus Christ never used holy anointing oil?
You seem to be inventing a torrent of straw man arguments while ignoring the underlying points of this entire article. Unless you plan on attacking the root of the argument (involving the ingredients of the oil, or claiming that the oil was never used), you are just fruitlessly wearing out your keyboard.
And yes, it does help to know you are a user, however you should realize that your marijuana is not only the product of years of breading, but ideal conditions. It would be safe to assume that the technology to create high-grade sinsemilla did not exist (on average) in the time of Christ.
You came out of the gates strong with interesting–yet unrelated–points, but it feels as if you’re just trying to argue for the sake of arguing, rather that actually contributing to the topic.
Sorry Eric, but the first line of the post is:
“Jesus was almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published [in 2003].”
Not entirely sure how what I wrote is off-topic.
Whether there is a biblical recipe for making anointing oil using cannabis is interesting.
However whether Jesus used anointing oil, and if he did whether that anointing oil was made in accordance to earlier scriptural instructions, is unresolvable. The fact is we have no proper historical texts. As I said earlier, a claim that Jesus used cannabis and further that he used it for its psychoactive effects is highly speculative and does not even come close to approaching the certainty with which the claim is presented above.
As an aside, one interesting question on the use of cannabis for its psychoactive effects is whether there is any evidence of cultivation including the separation of the male and female plants in BCE Palestine.
I’m aware what the first line of the post is, the problem is you keep trying to invent other arguments on why he would have never used marijuana when, again, the elephant in the room revolves around the oil. You can create as many interesting theories as you like regarding why Jesus wouldn’t have used cannabis, but the question that remains is the recipe used in the oil; the oil that Jesus used.
Further, no one is claiming that Jesus used the oil for its psychoactive effects. Marijuana can be used medicinally without ever feeling any psychoactive effect. Again, you seem to be inventing arguments here.
Whether there is a biblical recipe for making anointing oil using cannabis is not only interesting, it is the entire substance of the discussion you decided to join in on.
Allow me to help get you on track:
-In Exodus, there is a recipe for Holy Anointing Oil
-This recipe, in its original text, includes the ingredient “kanehbosm” (plural for “kanehbos”)
-The accepted translation of “kanehbosm” is “calamus”, a plant that contains the chemical trimethoxyamphetamine, which is a psychoactive ingredient also found in Ecstasy.
-Some argue that the true translation is “cannabis”, rather than “calamus”. Their arguments are backed by etymology as well as pharmacological observations (when you look at things like toxicity of calamus or even the various ailments that could be treated from a powerful anti-bacterial/viral oil containing cannabis)
-Regardless of which drug is correct, it is reasonable to claim that Jesus used this oil as it *was* the oil used to anoint people such as Jesus.
So if you’d like to participate in the discussion, it doesn’t add anything of substance to keep inventing smoke screen arguments that do not touch upon any of those points listed above. So before you reply, please save everyone a bit of time and review the list above… if you have anything that comments on that, by all means, let us know — otherwise you’re just spinning your wheels in this discussion.
First, If Jesus used this holy annointing oil containing cannabis on people to heal them, I can’t see where it is mentioned. In Exodus, that holy oil was to be used by Moses to annoint Aaron and his sons to be priests for God. Not by everybody. Second; Jesus Himself was never annointed with such oil by a man. He was annointed by God Himself, as stated in the book of Acts chapter 4 and verse 27.
Medicinal use of cannabis requires THC content, which would require cultivation of unfertilized female plants. The post above refers to both psychoactive effects and medicinal effects, and your own posts refer to medicinal use. In fact the whole premise of the post is that there was use of cannabis containing oil not hemp containing oil. Whether there is evidence of such cultivation is entirely pertinent.
I’m not making any claim about whether Jesus did or did not use oil containing cannabis. I am pointing out that any claim one way or the other is deeply speculative. I am pointing out that the post is based on bad historical method, nothing more.
If you do have any interest in the difficulties of making the kind of historical claims you are I would recommend The Historical Jesus by Bultmann. Fascinating read.
I’m sorry you don’t appreciate my input. Silly of me not to check that my postings were within the topic areas you personally felt happy with. I was just trying to share and discuss. Clearly you don’t want me to. Anyhow the whole passive agressive thing has stopped being fun for me, so I hand it back to you.
All the best
It turns out there is historical evidence of cannabis containing high levels of THC in a 2,700 year old tomb. Researchers say it was definitely cultivated.
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I’m not a biblical scholar but why does cannabis with a THC content require “cultivation and unfetilized female plants.” I don’t think it would have been cultivated in the first place if wild cannabis had no THC. And what did I spend the seventies cleaning seeds out of if only unfertilized cannabis has THC?
I see you’re going with a new angle now after my sinsemilla comment. This is actually a valid one, so I congratulate you. The flaw in your reasoning, however, is that it is false to claim that only unfertilized female plants produce THC. While unfertilized female plants produce *more* cannabinoids due to them not wasting energy on producing seeds, a fertilized female can still produce medically viable marijuana. In fact, with the amounts claimed to be used in the Exodus recipe (which calls for pounds of what some suspect to be marijuana), the sheer quantity would be enough to counter-balance lost energy via seed production. Further, low-grade marijuana is frequently used when preparing things like baked goods or oils due to the process being different than smoking or inhaling marijuana’s chemical constituents.
With that said, we already know that marijuana was used medicinally since before the time of Christ, so it’s not as if the technology didn’t exist to raise viable females to harvest. My point earlier was that our technology has become exponentially better and thus we can produce much higher grades than would have been naturally possible back then… but that doesn’t negate the existence of medical marijuana.
I’d say I will check out that book, but I’d most likely be lying. If you can point me to the passage inside of it that factually refutes the fact that either (a) the holy anointing oil contained cannabis, or (b) Jesus never used the holy anointing oil as described in the Bible, then I will happily check it out.
And per your last paragraph, can we please stick to the subject without reducing ourselves to childish games of “play the victim”? It’s not that I don’t “appreciate” your input, it’s simply that your input is logically flawed and has yet to show any pertinence to this discussion. You came into this with a pretty interesting take on why everything listed thus far is purely speculative, yet you don’t seem to have the foresight to catch your own high speculative comments. We’ve danced around the entire issue regarding two simple questions: (1) Did the Holy Anointing Oil contain Cannabis? And, (2) Did Jesus use said oil?
Have you managed to bring many questions into this discussion? Of course. But the ability to invent scenarios which garner more questions doesn’t equate to productive discussion. I’m sorry if you find me passive aggressive, but I’m just the type of person who likes a controlled discussion. You’ve managed to bring in numerous red herrings but nothing solid.
For what it’s worth, I can tell by your writing style and “voice” that you are an educated individual who most likely falls well above the bell-curve when it comes to arguing. The problem, though, is that you entered a discussion without an exit strategy.
So once more, I apologize if I come off abrasive, but my goal is to nurture productive discussion free from fallacious rabbit holes. If you can manage to avoid them, awesome — but if you’re unable to, then you have to be ready for me to poke holes in your posts.
I can read on this page that Jesus, called the Christ, or the annointed, used oil that contained marijuana to heal people. I have been reading the bible for many years, and I can’t see where you take these informations. In many cases he didn’t even touched the people he healed. He brought people back to life, like Lazarus and the son of the widow in Naim. You need more than marijuana to perform miracles like these. Truly, I don’t believe that Jesus used marijuana to heal people. At least, it should be specified where it is written in the scriptures.
Seeing as you posted pretty much the same thing here as your other post, I figured I’d reply to this one to save scrolling =P.
Per your first comment regarding the sparse use of the oil, it was intended and used for prophets, kings, and priests. I don’t see anywhere that shows its use being restricted to only Aaron and his sons.
Second, I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding as no one is trying to say that Jesus didn’t perform miracles or relied on the holy anointing oil… only that it was in use. Though you are correct in saying he mostly prayed and used his words to perform miracles and healing, if you look at Mark 6:13 (“They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them.”) and James 5:14 (“Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord.”) we can see that he did indeed make use of oil in healing.
Now, of course there is the glaring argument that it just says “oil” with no reference to its type, but I believe if we were to ignore context and accept it at face-value, then the same perception would affect many other parts of the Bible which require a similar amount of contextual understanding.
Let’s also remember that in a time lacking of pharmaceuticals, a plant like marijuana would be extremely valuable. Even with today’s science, we are looking towards marijuana to fight strains of penicillin resistant bacteria. To believe that the civilizations in the time of Christ would not take advantage of an unstigmatized herbal remedy that had already been utilized for decades prior is a bit of a stretch in itself.
Could you provide some scripture that would back up your claims that no one other than Moses, Aaron, and his sons used the holy anointing oil? I’d be interested in checking that out.
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It seems to me that unless marijuana behaves differently when absorbed through the skin it would be highly unlikely that the oil would in fact be marijuana.
In Matthew 22:37-40 and Luke 10:27, 28 Jesus said “love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind”. A psychotropic drug like marijuana would not allow a person to serve God with a whole mind therefore it seems reasonable that Jesus would not use something that would make it impossible to obey the two laws Jesus gave to his followers.
Similarly Paul wrote in Romans 12:1 “Consequently I entreat you by the compassions of God, brothers, to present your bodies a sacrifice living, holy, acceptable to God, a sacred service with your power of reason.” Using marijuana removes the power of reason therefore it really is less likely to be marijuana that was used by Jesus.
The English word calamus is actually translated from Greek not Hebrew and therefore comes from ka′la‧mos so the plants as translated in Exodus are most likely to be these:
neither of which come close to resembling cannabis or marijuana.
It’s clear you do not have an understanding of how marijuana affects one’s mind. That verse surely does not suggest that one can not be a Christian simply by partaking in a substance that alters one’s brain chemistry. If this is true, then you also believe that one can not be a christian while drinking caffeinated beverages, using daily medications for various conditions (such as ADHD), or even consuming wine during communion.
Your view of this issue blatantly reflects the facts you wish to see, not facts as they may exist. Marijuana no more “removes the power of reason” from a person than eating carrots helps your eyesight — both of which are purely myths propagated by the ignorant.
As for your second claim, indeed “calamus” does refer to a different plant… the issue has nothing to do with that, though. From the original hebrew text, the word in question in “kaneh bosem”. It has subsequently been translated by some to mean “calamus” — though some of us hold this to be a possible error.
Even in your own words you support the fact that you are wrong, since you agree that “kalamos” is the originating source for our present word “calamus”. Since “kalamos” is different than the word in question (“kaneh bosem”), you seem to agree that the Bible reference could not have been for calamus.
Ah, and I nearly forgot one of the biggest errors in your logic…
Let’s, for a moment, ignore all the facts at hand and allow ourselves to pretend that you are correct and the word in question does refer to calamus. I’m guessing you are not aware that calamus, itself, contains a psychotropic drug; it’s more commonly known as ecstasy.
That’s the real kicker of this discussion… no matter how we cut it, there were drugs in the recipe… some of us are just arguing it was marijuana, while others–such as yourself–are trying to rewrite things and say there were no drugs at all.
It is obvious that those powers that seek to suppress the use of cannabis and the herbal annointing oil are the powers of antichrist.
He that denieth the plant of kindness and the annointing oil he is antichrist.
this is certainly one of the more interesting threads i have come across in the last year or so.
good on you, eric… you’re a thinker who knows how to articulate in a clear and precise manner, and focus on the actual essence of what is being discussed.
and loweded wookie… “using marijuana removes the power of reason”? Excuse ME? what kind of low-grade corridor-dwelling elevator-pee-ers do you hang around with? ever heard of carl sagan? terence mckenna? or a million other artists and musicians who have produced incredible works of art while “under the influence” of herb? do some research, man… don’t make me laugh. if you are using herb and finding that it removes the power of reason, then you should stop, ’cause it just ain’t for you.
FREE THE HERB… RE-LEGALISE!
and p.s.– i am a man who gave his life to Jesus at the age of 19… i’m now 47, have been using herb regularly for about the last 12 years and have never felt closer to the Spirit of Christ than since I dropped all the “regulated organised religion” BS and began to seek the Lord in truth. herb doesn’t “connect me with God”; but i find that if i use (not abuse) cannabis, i’m a lot more open to His spirit, more able to forget the wordly worries which assail us all, and actually see the world and its people as His creation. a sin? i think not.
but think what you like, it’s your right… each of us stands alone before the Lord. peace 8-}
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If people read their bible they would see that when Jesus healed the sick it was through His power not by use of a herbal remedy. It says ‘power went out from Him to heal the sick’ also when a woman with faith touched His garment ‘virtue’ went out from Him. He was not just a man but God in human flesh, He doesn’t need to use herbal remedy because He is the remedy. I believe that God made all plants and they all have their uses but should not be abused. I guess people see what they want to see no matter how much truth is presented to them.
You may have missed this comment at the top of the article: “We are not saying Jesus depended on herbs to heal, but the facts seem to show that He did indeed utilize them.”
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