“The benefit from smoking as a route of administration is instant action and the ability of the patient to self titrate the dose needed for relief. Here we describe how patients can achieve similar quick acting relief and the ability to control dose without smoking. It is important that the medical community understand that whole cannabis products are available today that provide significant relief without smoking. We don’t have to wait for a pharmaceutical pill to be developed years in the future in order to have the benefits of cannabis. The present pill (Marinol) has proven very unsatisfactory due to a long delay of action time, poor absorption in the GI tract, and its failure to include many of the antioxidant and anti-inflammatory cannabinoids present in whole cannabis and its extracts. In addition, future pharmaceuticals will be wildly expensive. [Editor’s note: Most importantly, side effects of Marinol include death, with the FDA reporting 4 deaths directly related to Marinol, and one death indirectly related.]
Tinctures are not new. Until cannabis was banned in 1937, tinctures were the primary type of cannabis medicines. Tinctures are essentially alcohol extractions of whole cannabis (usually the flowers and trim leaves). Tinctures are easy to make and very inexpensive. Tinctures contain all 80 of the essential cannabinoids instead of only one with Marinol. Some of the cannabinoids such as cannibidiol (CBD) actually reduce the psychoactive effects of THC while increasing the overall efficacy of the preparation.
The best way to use tinctures is sublingually (under the tongue). Titration or dose control is easily achieved by the number of drops a patient places under the tongue where the medicine is rapidly absorbed into the arterial system and is quickly transported to the brain and body. All a patient need do with tincture is use a few drops, wait for the desired medical effects, and either use more or stop as the situation indicates. Tinctures can be flavored for better taste. They are best stored in dark bottles in the refrigerator. Since tinctures average some 75% ethanol there is little worry of bacterial or other biological contamination. Those who wish to avoid alcohol can instead use their tincture as a base for making a concentrated elixir. (recipe)” – via Smokeless Medicine
Here is Dr. Frankl’s excellent post on tinctures
A Note from Jay R. Cavanaugh, Ph.D., AAMC, National Director ~
Many patients who utilize and benefit from medical cannabis do not wish to smoke due to the perceived health hazards of smoking or for other personal reasons. These patients are in something of a bind. Smoking cannabis delivers the active cannabinoids within seconds. Medicine is absorbed in the lungs and goes directly to the brain and general circulation. The same effect can be achieved with a vaporizer, which is safer than smoking burning vegetable matter. Since the effects of inhaled cannabis are so quick, it is easy for patients to titrate their dose by simply waiting a minute or two in between puffs.
Oral cannabis, such as our Better Bud Butter, is absorbed in a very different fashion from smoking or inhalation. The GI tract gradually absorbs Cannabinoids over the course of one to two hours. Medicine is processed first by the liver, which converts some cannabinoids such as delta nine to delta 11 version of THC. Orally delivered cannabis requires four to ten times the amount of the smoked version in order to achieve the same effect. Orally delivered cannabis can present a problem in achieving the required or desired dose level in any consistent fashion.
Tincture is designed to address the problems of rapid medicine delivery and consistent dosing. Most tinctures are made to be used under the tongue or sublingually. English pharmaceutical companies are presently working on a cannabis extract “spray” that can be used under the tongue in a similar fashion. These sprays are not expected to be approved for use in the United States for years and will be very expensive. Absorption by the arterial blood supply under the tongue is completed in seconds. One trick is to not swallow the dose as, if swallowed, absorption will be in the GI tract. Many patients, though, add their tincture to a cup of tea or cranberry juice for easy delivery. When tincture is used in a beverage, absorption will be slower than if absorbed under the tongue. While tincture absorbed in an empty stomach is accomplished in minutes, conversion in the liver remains, as does the difficulty in titrating dose. Usually, a tincture dose is delivered by means of a medicine dropper or a teaspoon. A rule of thumb on dose is that patients receive benefit from 3-4 drops to a couple of full droppers depending upon the potency of the tincture and the patient’s own unique requirements among other factors.
The methods listed below will detail two major methods of preparing tincture. While the methods are optimized for purity and potency, ultimately these will largely be determined by the purity and potency of the cannabis from which the tincture is made. Another item of note in regard to starting material for tincture is the patient or caregiver selection of strain. A rough rule of thumb is to select Indica dominant strains for cramping and muscle spasticity and Sativa dominant strains for pain relief. The reality, though, is often that the strain is unknown or not well characterized. Trial and error is usually required to acquire the appropriate strain and the proper dose level.
General Rules:
Tincture is an extraction of active cannabinoids from plant material. Cannabis contains many chemicals that can either upset the stomach or taste nasty. One of the goals of extraction is to secure the cannabinoids while leaving out as many of the terpenes and chlorophylls as possible. Both heat and light adversely effect cannabinoids and should be avoided or minimized. Tincture should be stored in airtight dark glass containers kept at room temperature or below. Avoid plastic containers. The ethanol in the tincture may solubilize some of the free vinyls in the plastic. (Source)
Cold Method (recommended)
Here is the recipe for highest quality tincture. This method does not use heat so keeps the integrity of the cannabinoids intact.
“Making tincture cold preserves the integrity of cannabinoids. To be potent, this method requires starting material high in cannabinoid content such as flowers or kief made from trim and leaf. The material must be mold free and dry.”- from Dr Allan Frankyl: (Please pop over to Dr. Frankyl’s site and read his excellent post on making tinctures. He includes much information about CBD and more details than we can include here.)
NOTE: Our readers have pointed out that the below recipe fails to make note of the need to decarboxylate your cannabis first, as described in the “hot method” below. Dennis Hill writes about decarboxylation and its necessity for those curing cancer here.
Also see: Decarboxylating Cannabis: Turning THCA into THC
Below is a video on the subject. (You will notice a bit of variation in the advice given online about decarboxylation and tinctures.)
Recipe from WAMM:
1. Fill jar ¾ full of herb
2. Fill rest of jar with alcohol; leave some room at top, stir.
3. Shake jar [vigorously] one or two times a day for 2 weeks [or leave it until there is no green color left in the plant matter]
4. Strain through metal tea strainer or silkscreen.
You can use whatever kind of clean glass, not plastic, jar you have with a tight lid. One-quart mason jars are ideal. Grind the herb thoroughly in a blender. It should be well ground but doesn’t have to be a powder. You can use leaf, bud, shake, joint leftover, or stems. Too many stems will wreck your blender and a weaker tincture. Leaf work fine but for higher potency use shake or bud. Fill the jar ¾ full of herb; it does not have to be exact. You can use anywhere from ½ to 2/3 part herb but ¾ will make a full strength tincture. Use the highest proof alcohol you can, Everclear, which is 180 proof, but hard to find. So just use the highest proof Vodka you can find. Pour alcohol over the herb, filling the rest of the jar. Leave just enough space (an inch or so) at the top so that you will be able to shake the jar. Stir the mixture; the herb will absorb some of the alcohol so you may need to add more. Put the lid on tightly; label the contents and the date you started. It takes two weeks for the alcohol to extract all the active elements from the herb. Shake the jar once or twice a day for 2 weeks. The alcohol will rise to the top and a deep green/red color will develop. After 2 weeks of aging you can strain the tincture through a metal tea strainer or a silk screen into a small tincture bottle with a dropper. You can leave the rest in the jar if you want, it will age and mellow in flavor and you can strain off as much as you want at a time. Alcohol is a strong preservative it will hold for a long time, be careful when handling the tincture, it satins and will turn everything it comes in contact with green. Use Ultra Palmolive anti-bacterial dish soap, the orange kind, to clean the glass, metal or other ceramic utensils, (do not use plastic) sinks and counter tops works best at dissolving THC residue.
Dosage varies per individual but start with half a dropper dissolved in hot tea or water. Hot tea will dissipate some of the alcohol and activate the THC a bit. It can be taken straight but may burn the tongue and has a very strong herbal taste. [If you cut it with equal parts water, you can hold the dosage under the tongue without burning. Takes effect in seconds.]
This video shows cold-method tincture being made. Again, remember to decarboxylate first. Note that the mixture can remain in a dark place for up to a year before straining. It’s entirely up to you.
Hot Method, aka “Green Dragon”
Here are process details, references and rationalizations: (Source)
1. Chop the cannabis—more surface area gives means a faster and more efficient extraction. [You can literally chop it into a powder.]
2. Bake the cannabis (decarboxylate).
In whole-plant cannabis, THC content is expressed as THCA (tetrahydrocannabolic acid) prior to decarboxylation into THC, which takes place when cannabis is heated during cooking, and smoked or vaporized ingestion. THCA is a mild analgesic and anti-inflammatory but does not have good affinity with our CB1 receptors, so in order to make a THC-rich tincture that has many of the same therapeutic effects as smoked ingestion (including rapid absorption, quick relief and ease of self-titration), we must convert the THCA in the plant matter into THC prior to extracting it through an alcohol soak. (from Vancouver Island Compassion Society)
THC vaporizes at about 380°F. We want to heat the cannabis to convert THCA to THC, but keep the temperature under 380°F. That is why 325°F is used. Between four and five minutes your oven (and house) will start to smell very strong. This the time to remove the cannabis from the oven.
Notice also that there is considerable misinformation regarding heating the cannabis. It is true that you don’t have to heat it to extract both THC and THCA, but the amount of THC in whole plant preparations is relatively small compared to after decarboxylation of the THCA. So if you want to maximize the strength of your tincture you must heat the cannabis prior to extraction.
3. Use the highest proof alcohol available. In my area this was Bacardi 151. The more alcohol the more efficient the extraction will be.
4. Simmer the mixture.
This is one of the areas that seems to be most debated. Many recipes call for placing the cannabis (unbaked of course) into the alcohol and waiting 2 – 6 weeks. The main concern with heating the alcohol is that it is “explosive” (not exactly true…it is however flammable).
The purpose of the simmering is to heat the alcohol mixture to improve extraction rates and efficiencies. Heating during extraction increases the motion of the molecules (basic physics/chemistry) and drastically decreases extraction times. The boiling point of pure ethanol is 173°F (78°C). We will use the water bath to heat the rum/cannabis mixture to just below the boiling point of ethanol.
Heating the alcohol mixture can be done very safely using a hot water bath. You will need an accurate candy or quick read thermometer. Place about 1 inch of water in a wide, vertical-edged pan (9” wide x 3” high). Bring the water to a low simmer. The rum/cannabis mixture should be in a small (1 pint) mason jar. Do NOT cover the jar.
Put the thermometer into the mason jar and place into the simmering water bath. Bring the temperature of the rum/cannabis mixture to about 165°F (I maintain it between 150°F and 165°F). You want the alcohol mixture to be just barely moving (not boiling, but showing active convection within the mixture). If the mixture starts to bubble too much, just turn down the water bath.
You should have the oven fan on high. You will notice that any alcohol fumes are mixed with water vapor from the water bath and vented out the fan. This combined with the fact that you are trying not to boil the ethanol makes the process quite safe.
5. Strain, titrate, and store.
When you are finished with the extraction you will be left with about 1oz of green dragon tincture. Note that one ounce of the alcohol has evaporated.
Now you should test your eyedropper. In my test 34 full droppers equaled one ounce of liquid (this is a little less than one gram of liquid per dropper-ful as 29g equals 1ounce).
The liquid should be dark green and smell like cannabis. 1/8oz of good cannabis yields about 30-34 doses of tincture.
These videos show hot-method tincture being made
See Also:
Thank you for this site.
It is invaluable and offers extremely practical and specific guidance and information for many patients who are challenged with a host of “diseases”.
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Thank you, Lori Ani ~ what kind words of support!
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Just completed my first batch (cold method) which I initiated last week. Ironically, in that time frame, I also found I needed a PET scan, with results not yet in. Thus, my recreational efforts might be legitimized as medicinal, shortly. Administered dosage last night, with moderate results, and will continue experimenting.
I did, however, encounter one problem. While I wore rubber gloves while mixing and bottling, and protected my counters, I notice that this morning, my two, front lower teeth are stained green. (administerd under the tongue). What can be done about that? On the bright side, Sunday is St. Patrick’s Day, so I’ll smile a lot.
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Is it still happening? So sorry I have no idea why the tincture is having this effect.
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Be careful of what kind of gloves you use, as you don’t want the synthetic components of the gloves to dissolve in the medicine. Also be careful of using bare hands, and then adding a regular sized dose on top of the ‘dose’ you can get through your hands !! My wife really got ‘looped’ out doing this 🙂
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Jim, I use a Shea Butter infused with cannabis and apply it topically for Peripheral Neuropathy pain relief on my legs and feet. There are days where I swear I get bombed on the cream. It’s so soothing and works well for me. A pal turned me on to a small bottle of tincture his disabled friend in Wash made for me. It works great for me. I’m looking to make my own and this looks like a foolproof method. I’ll have to use less cannabis and thus, less alcohol, because I cannot afford 3/4 of a jar of weed at a time, lol. But I think I can do this. Thanks for the info.
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I have small fibre peripheral neuropathy of both feet. Can you please tell me how you mixed the shea butter with the cannabis. And if so what kind?? Sativa…Indica?
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I’ll take the first stab, but I’m sure others can help more than I. I do make my own body butters, so thought I’d share a sample recipe. It’s very easy. In this recipe he uses a blender to whip it (it glides on the skin much easier when whipped). I make smaller batches and whip it by hand as its cooling, using a whisk.
I’ve never heard whether indicator saliva works better for neuropathy, but you can’t wrong either way. If there’s a difference, u a gone it’s quite subtle and barely relevant.
In the sample recipe http://lifefromthegroundup.us/2014/01/homemade-body-butter/ just replace the coconut oil with oil infused with your medicine. There are recipes all over for “cannabis infused coconut oil”. Let us know if you have further questions.
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Try brushing your teeth with Coconut Oil it’s know for whitening teeth and killing bacteria in our mouths. However, huge warning DO NOT SWALLOW the Coconut Oil. Coconut Oil removes bad bacteria that’s in your mouth, so you don’t want that bad bacteria in your stomach or GI tract it could make you ill.
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How could this be true if people use coconut oil in cooking recipes?
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it is only harmful to swallow it, if you have brushed your teeth or oil pulled with the coconut oil.
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yeah, it isn’t the coconut oil but rather the toxins that have been pulled out that you don’t want to swallow (spit in toilet or it will clog drains!)
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Everyone Be Careful!!!! Most cannabis is treated with organophosphates! When the organophosphate residue simmers in the tincture alcohol, an ester is created and it is highly toxic to the human nervous system! Do not make cannabis tincture!!!
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Does that apply to glycerin tincture??
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Please read about organophosphate toxicity and poisoning – almost all cannabis is treated with organophosphate during plant growth (organic or otherwise). This can seriously harm you when esters are formed by binding to the alcohol – alcohol draws out the toxins and holds them in your tincture. You can become paralyzed and die from this method, it is serious chemistry.
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Esters do not combine with alcohols .
ALCHOL + COACID > ESTER & H2O.
THIS IS A ONE WAY CHEMICAL PATHWAY that is not easily reversed.
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Which Pharm company do you work for?????
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Organophosphate toxicity is not a concern with tinctures unless you got your reefer from an unreliable source. No grower I know uses chemical pesticides, at least not after it buds. Can’t say the same for the cartels, but I know of no one who has suffered. What is the name of the ester? This shows the importance of knowing your source, but should not keep you from making an alcohol tincture. It’s a lifesaver in many instances and is a much better solvent than glycerin any day of the week. Many modern dispensaries test their products for pesticides and they must be pesticide free.
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I don’t know of anybody here in Mendocino County that use pesticides! Nobody wants that in their smoke!!!
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Really. Funniest sentence I’ve read today, tho the man mansplaining mansplaining already won the internet today, sorry. If this were true, then there would not be the serious environmental degradation of streams and rivers in northern Cali. Saying what you said means you do not have a fucking clue about your own immediate world.
Source your pot and your will be fine. I grow my own and make my own tinctures and other edibles (as well as green leaf juicing) and lead a pretty pain free life —- when the docs can only tell you “don’t fall down” it’s up to you to take care of yourself.
Want to help in the future? Learn about YOUR environment, and take care of it. Go confront the indoor growers, and the ones growing outdoors w/chemicals, the ones diverting streams and dumping diesel fuel, and clearcutting. I lived in northern Cali — I KNOW what goes on there.
In the meantime, peddle this BS to Kate over at “I Love This Town” at the KOZT — she loves that black cherry koolaid perspective.
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So use your own home grown.
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Then Organically grown cannabis could do.
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I’m assuming you are referring to only commercially grown cannabis, if it is grown at home under organic conditions and no pesticides are used, then it is perfectly safe to use in this process.
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Not if you grow it yourself. 😉
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malathion, parathion, diazinon, fenthion, dichlorvos, chlorpyrifos, ethion, trichlorfon none fo those are used on cannabis- stop trolling.
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Yes they are aswell as a list of pesticides like azamax an other trusted chemicals. Not knowing does not change the facts but shows lack of knowledge an care. Pyrithrin is in most pesticides used aswell as the little problem of these home growers using pesticides that bond at a molecular level
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There are dispensaries that grow without any pesticides and many of us grow our own — without any pesticides. So telling people not to make tinctures is NONSENSE!
Just make sure you don’t get cannabis of an unknown origin.
And there is a cheaper alcohol to use: GemClear. Same as EverClear but much cheaper.
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Everyone Beware!!! Cannabis tincture can be toxic!!! Organophosphates on cannabis combine with the alcohol to form esters that can seriously poison you! Please do not use cannabis tincture! Danger! Danger!
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Thanks so much, i asked a scientist friend and he says:
Here is the story from Wikipedia:
When utilized in ‘tincture’ method extractions, specifically as a 10% solution, glycerol prevents tannins from precipitating in ethanol extracts of plants (tinctures). It is also used as an ‘alcohol-free’ alternative to ethanol as a solvent in preparing herbal extractions. It is less extractive when utilized in a standard tincture methodology. Glycerol is approximately 30% more slowly absorbed by the body resulting in a much lower glycemic load. Alcohol-based tinctures can also have the alcohol removed and replaced with glycerol for its preserving properties. Such products are not ‘alcohol-free’ in either a scientific or consumable sense, but should in all instances more accurately be referred to as “Alcohol-Removed” products. Fluid extract manufacturers often extract herbs in hot water before adding glycerin to make glycerites.[10][11]
When used as a primary ‘true’ alcohol-free (e.g. no alcohol (i.e. ethanol) ever being used) botanical extraction solvent in innovative non-tincture based ‘dynamic’ methodologies, glycerol has been shown to possess a high degree of extractive versatility for botanicals including removal of numerous constituents and complex compounds, with an extractive power that can rival that of alcohol and water/alcohol solutions. That glycerol possess such high extractive power assumes that glycerol, with its tri-atomic structure, is utilized with dynamic methodologies as opposed to standard passive ‘tincturing’ methodologies that are better suited to alcohol’s di-atomic structure. Glycerol possesses the intrinsic property of not denaturing or rendering a botanical’s constituents inert (as di-atomic alcohols – i.e. ethanolic (grain) alcohol, methanolic (wood) alcohol, etc., do). Glycerol is a stable preserving agent for botanical extracts that, when utilized in proper concentrations in an extraction solvent base, does not allow inverting or reduction-oxidation of a finished extract’s constituents, even over several years. Both glycerol and ethanol are viable preserving agents. Glycerol is bacteriostatic in its action, and ethanol is bactericidal in its action.[12][13][14]
Isn’t this great? Glycerol is just the perfect tincture medium for all the above reasons.
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So how does using glycerin alter the methods? and Where can I get it?
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Does this mean that, with respect to organophosphate poisoning, glycerol is a safe alternative to using alcohol to make a cannibus tincture? How about using a commercial fruit and vegetable-washing product?
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Hayes…are you a pharmacist who is about to be put out of business by all this marijuana medicine?. Grow your own and relax.
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Good Answer! Patrick
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You can water treat the dry herb to flush out chemicals. Re dry and you’ll be good to go.
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What studies support your statement,” almost all cannabis is treated with organophosphate during plant growth” That is a pretty strong statement what can you back it up with? I have not met any growers that use Organophosphate but there are thousands maybe tens of thousands growers In California alone. How did you ever manage to ask all of them if they use Organophosphates?
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Water treat? Seriously? If organophospates are in weed, fruit, vegtables or herbs, you can’t wash them off. That is a systemic insecticide that is throughout the plant tissues and can not be removed. To the person that said it’s even in organic. Rediculous! Anything that is labeled as organic/certified is not allowed by law to use organophospates or any other synthetic insecticide. If you eat non organic food, your already eating this shite.
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I was just diagnosed with tonsil cancer and will purchase the RSO oil or tincture….Question: can I or should I use both at the same time or just one?
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I wouldn’t bother with the tincture. The RSO is all you need. See https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/biochemist-who-cured-his-stage-4-prostate-cancer-with-cannabis-oil-explains-how-it-works/ and if you have any other questions he can answer (also check the comments for lots more info on using the oil).
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thank you for the easy 1 2 3 on making cold and hot tinctures.
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Hey thanks for the instructions on cannabis tincture its been very helpful as i live in a state where medical cannabis is not legal (indiana) and this helps with my chronic pain due to sciatica and my severe depression and i can now medicate with out worrying about smelling like marijuana all the time thanks alot
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thank you for this sit and info–today i have gone from stage 4 terminal t0 partially remission so far in 3 months on the oil-all i can say is HEMP OIL CURES CANCER-READ ABOUT IT=============
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can you please tell me what kind of oil and where can i find it please!
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The hemp oil referred to here is what is commonly called hash oil. It is NOT hempseed oil. It is made by using a super solvent like ethanol or butane or naptha, etc. and a large amount of buds. The solvent is then evaporated off leaving a very concentrated oil. The oil is then ingested for the cancer treatment daily for 60-90 days. You won’t be able to function very well-like heavy narcotics. I prefer the all natural ethanol solvent. It can get expensive but probably not nearly as bas as chemo. If you want, I’ll dig up the link for you.
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what is the difference between hempseed and hash oil? the reason I ask is my husband was diagnosed with an intestinal sarcoma and I’ve heard of rick simpson’s hemp oil but not hash oil. im desparate right now and willing to try just about anything. this is open to anyone that may be able to help here.
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Ang – Both RSO (Rick Simpson Oil) and hemp oil are great medicine, but each has its own benefits. Both are cancer killers; RSO is more potent as it is bud extract. Hash oil is whole plant extract, is less potent, but has many beneficial contents like terpenoids. Either would be great cancer medicine, just take more hash oil to approximate the potency of RSO. ~Dennis
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Contact Rick simpson through Phoenix Tears or contact bud Buddies, they might be able to hep you with the oil
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Rick Simpson’s hemp oil – instructions are online, at his website Phoenix Tears and on YouTube. You can also go to a good dispensary to obtain it.
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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, HAPPY IT WORKED WE ARE JUST TRYING IT FOR 3 MOUNTHS, NOW MY FRIEND IS STAGE 4 LIVER..HOPE AND OPTIMIST, ISA
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what is hemp oil
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thank you for your input. I have severe scoliosis since 12 yrs. old and over the years have incurred several other physically problems. Could you tell me where I could order medical marijuana tincture to treat myself for pain, depression etc. I do have ung issues, so shouldn’t smoke, This could be such a great medical help to me. thank you very much. Janis Herman. I can be reached online @ janiskay2011@hotmail.com
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Dispensaries have them. They can’t be obtained online.
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They can be found online from trustworthy sources in Canada but this not legal.
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where can I find cream for neuropathy pain?
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May I know your nationality?
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You think it works on sciatica and depression – I can top that – try living without tincture with PANCREATITIS! It can’t be done – pancreatitis is a hospital stay, generally 2 weeks if you’re lucky, a month if you’re unlucky and almost everyone with pancreatitis is unlucky! Chronic pancreatitis is a scourge that I wouldn’t wish on anyone – analgesics work somewhat but the side-effects with drugs such as Tramadol are worse than the pain (most of the time). Headaches, nausea and vomitting are the result of the pain meds. Tincture is the panacea of pain relief. No lung damage, no headache, no nausea, no vomiting, no hospital, no doctor, no unbelievably high medical bills to pay – just relief, pure blissful relief from pain! FYI – the cup of hot tea is an ideal conduit just be sure to add a dab of butter to the cup – just a little oil from butter will improve flavor and efficacy of delivery! In fact, you should add some butter – unsalted is the best – to your morning coffee too – boost the flavor, try it you’ll like it. As an aside, I’ve been living with chronic pancreatitis for 35 yrs., smoking herb for 40 yrs recreationally, now enjoying the fun as well as pain relief with the medical strains available today. Over those 35 yrs. I’ve experienced only 1 acute case of ‘gotta go to the hospital-type’ pancreatitis 14 yrs. ago and moderate pancreatitis since Apr. 2014 – moderate pancreatitis that didn’t turn into an acute case because you can heal your pancrease by severe restriction of diet and use of the mother of all nature’s creation: herb. Tincture is the way to go!
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I have ACP too. I am making a tincture now. I have hope now.
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Would making butter with tincture work?
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That’s a really interesting question – can you do a little experiment and let us know? Maybe just a small amount so you don’t waste it. It’s questionable how alcohol and oil will mix.
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1Do it just like you’re making salad dressing…infuse them together. Use a small food processor and add the oil (butter) in slowly, just like in the cooking shows. Obviously the butter should be melted first, but not scalding hot.
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This creates an emulsion which should bind the molecules together.
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So, can I use the thc tincture to make the typical brownie? If so, how do you suggest/what is the ratio?
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I am also a Chef sir…would it not separate again over a period of time anyway.
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In the Video about tincures, What does it say about Sativas on the board behind him that he is covering up with his body?
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Hi there,
I’ve written Dr Frankel and will post the answers when he responds.
Thanks for a great question!
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So did Dr. Frankel ever get back with you?
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No, not yet. I noticed he does answer questions that are posted to his blog, so i’ve done that this time, and asked that he respond here.
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Some people including Dr. Frankel believed what we now know to be an urban myth, the non-scientific thought that there is a provable difference between indica and sativa. The scientific community, that is current on the science, now know that those terms have nothing to do with effects and are only useful to describe the looks of the plant. Again, the science is in those terms have nothing to do with effects.
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Hi,
I have a question regarding quantities using the cold tincture method above. Would 3/4 of a quart mason jar be approx. an ounce of marijuana? Also, what volume of tincture would the method yield? Thanks!
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Does one need to soak the tincture for 2 weeks after the hot water bath or is the tincture ready for use directly after the bath?
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question. if the cannabis needs to go through decarboxylation to convert the THAC into THC, shouldn’t you heat the cannabis for the cold method as well?
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This is my question too. Did this ever get answered?
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If you want a potent THC content then yes use the method that to hot tincture uses to decarb the cannabis
Put the plant material (before you put it in the alcohol) in the oven
325 f for 5 minutres in the over should convert most the THC
Then go on with the cold process after that.
Sorry for i know this question is old but some other readers might like to know.
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This might help too – biochemist Dennis Hill on the need for decarboxylation https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/got-cancer-decarboxylate-your-cannabis/
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Yes. I will amend the article to reflect this, thanks.
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does tinctures stay in the system as long as smoking?
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longer
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Can I effectively administer tincture in my bunghole? Reason I ask is because I think that would be a very quick and effective place for absorption 🙂
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If it’s an alcohol tincture, you’ll wish you were dead for at LEAST 2 minutes
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A safer and easier method would be to take it in tea or water before you actually need the medical effect. Yes, applying the tincture in the rectum is very fast acting but not a great idea.
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I have been receiving prescription meds for Parkinsons for over 10 years, and was recently given some tincture to try. The effects were so noticable(improved dexterity, and a decrease in tremors) that friends thought I had been “cured”. I am now in the process of making my own tincture, and need to know how to calculate the ideal dose. Any suggestions?
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So happy to hear this! My reaction is, trail and error will tell you exactly what dosage works. That is what Dr LEster Grinspoon suggests too. Called “titrating”.
Western (pharma) medicine doesn’t suggest this method because their drugs are deadly. But with cannabis, if you take too much you simply fall asleep for a nice little nap.
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dealing with spasmodic dysphonia AND essential tremors ~ encouraged to see that this has “cured you”…just started the tincture yesterday – looking forward to helping the voice & tremors!
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Very interested to learn if the marijuana helped with your SD!!?
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Does anyone know how much an ounce of tincture would cost? It was given to me by a friend and I used it a few times but I prefer to smoke. Just wondering the value because I would like to trade it for smokable weed and don’t want to be taken advantage of. It was made with alcohol…probably a high proof rum. I’m from Montana if location makes a difference. I’ve seen that prices range anywhere from $30 to well into the $100s. Kind of confusing!!!!! An ounce of weed costs about $200 to $250 here. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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the dispensary I shop at sells it for $50/for 2 liquid oz.
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Thank you for your response. I learned that it’s about the same cost in this area too. I have been adding tincture to my weed and smoking it. Have you tried this? I do it because I think I smoke less and the effects are quite nice. They just wear off too soon after I smoke but I like the way I feel and it’s been working both on my mood and on my body. Just curious if you have any information on smoking tinct?
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one of the tinctures i bought has a good taste to it – kinda like candy). any way to add flavor to homemade tinctures?
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you can add whatever you want, just remember you’ll have to titrate again because you have added more ingredients to the mix.
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any recipes you can recommend?
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If your in a state where medical use is illegal is the tincture also? And if I used the tincture wouldnt it show in my system in a drug test?
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Yes.
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please press “1” for English.
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Hah
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well…the purpose of a tincture is to keep the dosing easy, small and indiscreet, so you wouldn’t want to add much. It also depends on whether you are using an alcohol or glycerin based tincture (which takes a little more volume per dose)
Personally, I love chocolate or any berry in an alcohol tincture, which is the only tincture I have experience with. If you can find some frozen berry concentrate, add a few drops, and adjust till it tastes like you want it to.
You might have to briefly blend it in a coffee grinder or small food processer to emulse them together.
Also remember that you will have to re-titrate after adding the flavor. How much more per dose you will want depends on the amount of flavoring you added.
Now that I am thinking about it…wouldn’t a few grains of sweetened Kool-Aid added to the tincture taste good?
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that sounds incredibly yummy. pls post a recipe (detailed instructions from start to finish would be appreciated)
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It seems like emptying the contacts of a mint tea back into the jar when starting the steeping process would work.
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in making tinctures, is there much difference between using fresh or dried cannabis trimmings? the tincture is intended for a friend of a friend with stage 4 cancer. Any thoughts appreciated!
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Good question… anyone know??
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Do a search for “Leaf, juicing raw cannabis” ~ there may be good reason to include raw form in your friend’s diet, given it is legal in your state.
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DRIED HAS LESS CHLOROFILE??? WE MAKE IT WITH DRIED SOAKED IN ETHANOL 10GRS COVER WITH IT , AND FILTER LET EVAPORATE IN A OPEN GLASS JAR ,THE RESINE LEFT MIX WITH A LITLE OLIVE OIL COMES OUT 1 GR ADD 3 OF OLIVE OIL. FOR THE LAST 3 MOUNTHS MY FRIEND IS TAKING IT AND FEELS OK 2 TIMES DAILY,4 DROPS, HE IS STAGE 4 TOO.HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013, AND MUCH HEALTH AND LOVE AND WEED TOO 🙂
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Would you say that the cold method is better for a CBD rich tincture and medicinal purposes and Hot method better for THC effects?
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Wish i could help more, but if no one answers you here, you might take this question to Dr Frankel ~ http://www.greenbridgemed.com/2009/08/29/how-to-make-cannabis-tinctures-at-home/
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The article mentioned THCA & heating at 325, but other recipes and labs I have used recommend decarboxylating , heating the flower , at 200 for 60 min or so. That converts THCA to THC and CBDA to CBD. That is a simplistic explanation but the lab tests show it works.
I use that to create hot tinctures for CBD rich cannabis, but it should be just as effective for any type.
There are many discussions of decarboxylation of cannabis, just Google.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
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In addition, I believe partially cover the jar with aluminum foil, maybe 2/3 of the top. That allows vapors to escape but not too quickly. The goal is to extract the chemicals from the cannabis, not to evaporate the alcohol. The longer the process takes, the more is extracted.
Decarboxing ( abbreviation ) & a slow extract create a smoother tasting tincture as well, in my opinion. The strong alcohol still burns the mouth, no cure for that. One lab said the glycerin extracts it has tested are all much lower in THC/CBD than alcohol extracts. I haven’t experimented with that yet.
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would that work for a vaporizer too (heating @200 for 60 min)?
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thanks for this great page. I’m an MS nurse and have been trying to help a severely disabled patient of mine left high and dry after his health authority pulled funding on his sativex, for about 2 years, whilst he has deteriorated in front of me. will now help him to make tincture. How do you go about getting cannabis if you don’t normally have any dealings with it? I’m in england.
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Perhaps ask other nurses?
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THE BEST IS TO GROW A FEW PLANTS HOME, AND KEEP ALWAYS ROTATING 2 SPROUTING 2 FLOWERING SO YOU KEEP THE SUPLY ON , BY SEEDS AUTO FLOWERING FEMINISED TAKES 2 MOUNTHS TO COLECT THE PLANTS, QUITE EASY TO GROW AT HOME..LOTS OF INFO IN YOUTUBE HAPPY NEW YEAR:)
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My understanding of the auto-flowering strains is that they generally lack the potency of the more management intensive strains so it would seem that for maximum medical benefit a non-auto-flowering strain would be best. More than that, I have found, the act of caring for, planning the various stages of, and harvesting a strain which took great care in every stage and a fair amount of research to get you there is not only rewarding, but therapeutic. Growing your own supply is more than just putting a street dealer out of business, it is a chance for someone to care for another life-form and to grow as a person in the process. Its a beautiful thing.
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What do you do with what is left after your strain the luiquid (cold procces.)? Would it be strong enough to make a cream mixed with hand lotion?
Thanks,
Joe
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Hi ~ are you referring to the plant matter? If so, sorry to say but it’s quite worthless at that point – it has no color, no cannabinoids (i would imagine).
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I am trying to find the best and easiest way to make a cream lotion for nerve pain. Any suggestions.
Joe
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I found this recipe http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/recipes/arthritis_balm.htm ~ it comes from here: http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-marijuana-usage-applications/570919-medical-marijuana-cream-chronic-pain.html
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Wow, thanks for a great recipe. Can’t wait to do this. My local dispensary charges a lot for hand creams.
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I had an arthritic knee that hurt lie hell for years.I watched a man on you tube make a medicine with marijuana tea and hemp sead oil.I did the same thing he did but with less pot.I made enough to fill a 2 ounce bottle and i took a tablespoon in the morning and the same in the evening for five days.It was starting to taste bad on the fith day.The arthritis was gone on the third day.I had other medical issues that went away at the same time the arthritis left my body.I haven’t done this treatment for 2 years now and nothing has returned.I used two oz’s of mexican pot an an oz of water in a rice cooker for 30 minutes.I strained it through cheeze cloth and put it in the frig for 4 hours.I took out the tea and put it in a bottle of hemp sead oil and started my treatment and i am here to tell you it works.The tea works to.
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After leaving Cannabis in alcool for two week as explained on this page. Would what is strained and left as a strong product and then mixed with hand and body lotion, work well as a topical pain killer? Anyone know?
Thanks a million,
Joe
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So you would mix the plant matter with lotion? If there are still cannabinoids in the plant matter, I think it would work as a topical pain reliever. I could imagine using it as a poultice too.
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No I think the plant matter left would not have any strenght in it. I would use the strained liquid that is strong mix with hand lotion. I don’t know if it will work but I’m going to try…
Joe. If you have any suggestions, let me know.
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I am not sure I asked in right spot on this page- can you make brownies using a tincture? If so, what is the ratio/recipe? This is the kind of tincture in a bottle with a dropper.
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I am not sure, but someone will probably end up answering you…
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TO help make the pane go away
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With havin so much written content do you ever run into any issues of plagorism or
copyright violation? My site has a lot of unique content
I’ve either written myself or outsourced but it looks like a lot of it is popping it up all over the internet without my permission. Do you know any ways to help stop content from being ripped off? I’d definitely appreciate it.
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Yes, you can add a note to the bottom of each article saying that it is copyrighted and not to reprint without permission.
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why would one wish to hold knowledge that can save peoples lives via a “copyright”? This is the exact opposite of what we are trying to accomplish. Free the herb and don’t hold back the knowledge but rather give and accept freely. Meantime, if you are still into the copyright idea – google Stephan Kinsella and IP law.
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Actually my intent with this blog was to archive information to make it easily found and available. I think the original question may have nothing to do with cannabis, but rather protecting one’s work.
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Hello. If I choose to use the cold method, should I stop first bake the tinctures to activate the THC? Also, with the hot method, how long do you give it the water bath? Also, after the water bath, the tinctures is ready after strained? So it takes less than an hour to make as opposed to 2 weeks? I also heard of a freezer way to make tinctures. Do you know about this?
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i can only share what i’ve read, and i’ts quite limited…
the freezer method works well
yes, the hot method takes less than an hour – but you pay in terms of quality and taste. for someone who’s run out of medicine though, this is the best option.
i know nothing about the water bath, sorry. and i don’t remember about whether it’s good to activate the THC before the hot water method, it’s literally been years since i looked into this.
hopefully some others can answer you here. if you do find answers elsewhere, would you come back and post them in the comments?
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Rick Simpson makes his oil by evaporating off all of the solvent: before this point, he adds a few drops of water, to prevent the oil hardening (the solvent will evaporate off before the water does).
http://www.phoenixtearsmovie.com/
You would have to stop the evaporation process well before this point, so that you end up with cannabis oil in an alcohol solution; and would probably have to use your judgement to determine when it had reached the right concentration.
Personally, as alcohol is a poison, I would tend to take it to the stage where it had just assumed slight viscosity. You could see this by dipping it with a table knife, for instance.
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Meant to say, you can always add a few drops of alcohol if you go too far.
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I use the freezer method all the time and am quite pleased with the results. I can have a full bodied concentrated ethanol tincture in about a day and a half total. I use an ounce per pint of Everclear. Once the Green/Gold Dragon is finished, it can be used to transfer the thc to other mediums such as glycerin, honey, oils and such and is called a solvent transfer. You’re able to make basically any potency you need or want.
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What if it is less than 3/4 of a jar?
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DUH..it means you will have less
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I was a professional athlete and suffered a back injury in 2010. I have had two back surgeries and suffer from Neuropathy. I can not take pain meds orally. I had to stop them completely in January due to horrible side effect reactions. I have practiced and believed in Holistic treatment for years. I would like to try a tincture but do not know how to go about this process. I am in Pennsylvania. Can anyone help or suggest?
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The cannabinoids in cannabis are the ‘medicine’, they are the constituents that contain pain relieving properties. Those cannabinoids may be administered by smoking, or ingesting in food or tincture. A google search will help you to find out more about how you can make your own – if you’re in a state where it’s legal – and you can also go to the local dispensary and inquire further. We obviously can’t recommend anything that would break the law. Tincture is not difficult to make. Some bodies respond better to cannabis oil or butter, and some respond well to tincture. Either way, you are getting the pain relieving medicine.
We wish you the best of luck and Healing & would love to hear about your experiences after you try the herbal tincture!
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Oops! Another question. We all know that smoking it has pronounced effects on the brain. Does a tincture have the same effect? Same anonymous as above.
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Hi everyone, I am working with the cold tincture and it’s coming along. I was wondering should you swallow the tincture after putting it under the tongue and how long should you keep it under the tongue?
Thanks,
Joe
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Yes, swallow after holding it under your tongue for about a minute – according to my research anyway.
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Good luck holding it under your tongue for more than a few seconds. It burns a lot and will cause your salivary glands to quickly dilute it, which in turn will cause you to swallow. If you flavor your tincture first it will help. If I’m going sublingual, I have a drink handy to put out the fire. If it doesn’t burn, it’s not very strong. You can do it, but you’ve got to be tough. It’s just as easy to put it in a shot of water or other liquid and shoot it down. Or in your soda, coffee or energy drink.
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i had a tincture that was actually really sweet, so you could keep it under your tongue for a few minutes. it obviously wasn’t made with alcohol, i think it was a oil based tincture…? maybe made the same way that cannabutter and candies are made…?
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It was probably a glycerin tincture, which is sweet and can be used sublingually. Like all tinctures, there are various ways to do it. Just like the alcohol tincture, glycerin is usually made using the same cold method and there’s a couple of heated methods.
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thats exactly what it was. i found the bottle and it looks like the one at the top of the page. can you post a recipe for making that? cuz it was awesome.
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I’ll post a couple of different links for it a little later. There are different ways to do it. I’ll link the most common 2. The thing to know about glycerin is that for a truly good tincture, you should have a ratio of 1 gram per fluid ounce minimum. Optimal potency is about 3:1.
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Like alcohol tincture, there’s a hot and cold method but even the cold method calls for a small amount of heat initially. Here’s a popular one using heat that is well respected: http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/655899-wildwills-glycerin-tincture-how.html.
And this one is a little heat and time: http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/742831-badkats-cannapharm-canna-caps-uv-reactive-glowing-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more-24.html#post11628262
As for myself, I make my glycerin with a solvent transfer. I make my alcohol tincture first and then add a ratio of it to glycerin for a good dose. Then I evaporate off all the alcohol, which leaves the infused glycerin tincture. Works great and no heat touches the weed. I use the freezer method.
Hope this helped. Google glycerin tincture and you’ll be flooded with recipes.
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awesome. thanks.
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I find it works great in tea of coffee but I would like to have the effect faster. I think you almost have to have it half and half with water otherwise it burns.
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Yes, you do have to mix with water to hold under the tongue. I hear that it’s fastest working when used sublingually as opposed to the GI tract.
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You can flavor it and that will help with the burn. I know a lot of people who use it sublingually but you have to be tough. Keep a drink handy so that you can put out the fire, so to speak. If you transfer the thc to honey or glycerin, it is still sublingual quality but tastes a hell of a lot better.
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How’s the cold method working for people, as it’s described here? Others have suggested putting the jar inside a paper bag, in the freezer. Any comments? Thanks. Greg.
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I use the freezer method, no bag, and it’s wonderful.
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Nice! How long until the tincture is ready with the freezer method?
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3 days, start to finish.
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For anyone really interested, my process for making alcohol tincture, honey, glycerin, butter, oil, etc. is at this address: http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/1102315-another-tincture-thread-try-youll-like.html
This is the freezer method.
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Thank you!
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You’re welcome. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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Paper bag? Freezer? Never heard of that before. I’m am testing the cold method with shakes and with buds, Will know soon,
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for anyone using a rice cooker to reduce their solvent extraction be aware that switching from ‘cook’ to ‘simmer’ can cause the switch to spark and ignite the mixture. fortunately i wasn’t in the house.
be aware.
hope i’m not teaching any grannies to suck eggs here!
excellent site, thanks for putting it together
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The same thing happened to me, but I had forgotten to turn on my fans in time. I was very lucky the flash fire didn’t splash all over me. Pants caught fire and and shoes and bowls and anything else in range melted and I had just gotten home from back surgery. I would have been a goner, but fortunately it didn’t work that way and it was out quickly before anything could catch. I was using the rice cooker bowl directly when that happened and it was my first usage of it for this purpose. Now I’m sure to have all my fans on and I use it as the bottom of a double boiler. It works great that way. Plus, I’m much more careful.
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hey i have a question i made a tinture with 40% vodka first decorboxalting the keif for an hour at 235 f then let it soak for 10 days then strained it and copncentrated it by heating it up using a thermomiter to make sure it didnt go over 220. when i tryed it sublingually then swollowed it did not work what i think happened is i evaporated all the alcohol off so it was then just a mixture of water and thc which i think makes it not able to absorb sublingually do you know if this is true if so how can i concentrate it without the same problem happening. thankyou
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dude brandonaroni secret is.. you vaped the thc out of the plant so you pretty much just made like bad lettuce tinctures next time dont be a ass and read the directions. 325 for 4 to 5 minuets so it wont vape keep it under 380
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Total BS ! – -You are the ass.
1hr at 116o ( 240F) in the Oven
ALSO the problem was using so called 40% Vodka .
It is essential to use pure alcohol of at least 95 % ethanol content.
Fill jar with decarbed weed to half inch above -then into the freezer for say 3 days. Turn & shake once or twice every day-then its ready.
Strain -using a stocking — throw out plant material.
Get out crock pot — add 2-3 ” hot water — place Cannabis Alcohol mix into a small bowl which then sits inside the crock pot. Put on warm & check every 20min or so. This is to evaporate most of the alcohol – – SAFELY. So no naked flames or striking matches>
Guaranteed to work !
Perth Australia
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my dad is diagnosed with stage 4 liver cancer and doctors basically said its too advanced to do any kind of treatment…I feel I have nothing to lose and willing to try anything. Do you think the tincture, being alcohol based, will damage the liver even more?
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The tincture would not be strong enough, according to the research I’ve seen. It’s “RICK SIMPSON OIL” you want to investigate – people who were given days to live are alive today because of it.
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My fiend is stage 4 liver metastases, ive been using cold method, 10gr grass cover ethanol, squeeze filter ,and left a week evaporating the alcool in a open glaass jar, til only resin is left one gram,and mix that with olive oil 3 grams, do you think is not strong enought. he takes 12 drops a day, now 3 mounths, ,, we grow it, its cheaper than by the oil, 30 euros per gram is sold.around thanks, happy new year, 🙂
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phay-.If I might; nunya’s reply is spot-on. Cannabis-oil-extract is sometimes available in a dispensary-if you’re O.K. to buy it there.. Otherwise, there are some resources.ONE I highly suggest is the website of (Cannabisscience.com) Robert Melamedae PhD, is PRESENTLY CURING CANCER WITH THIS OIL..It is, however not something just anyone can make..If you know someone, locally, to advise you on the topic.
I also have Liver issues and CanNOT use alcohol of ANY type..I have, though developed,and use a Glycerin Tincture..A bit sweet, but works well..(and is made the same way as the HOT one here) I use it for pain relief, insomnia and muscle spasms..ANY tincture-regardless how its made-just is not as “effective a dose” as the type needed to treat Cancer.
THC has been shown in trial-after trial TO SEEK-OUT AND KILL CANCER CELLS.(apoptosis)
Go to this website, ask questions.Keep asking questions..Good Luck.
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Phay & Paolo ~ you might want to check out this post, Dennis Hill is a biochemist who is healing his cancer with Rick Simpson oil ~ he is answering questions and explains it all here (this is his latest comment explaining why your oil must be decarbooxylated) https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/biochemist-who-cured-his-stage-4-prostate-cancer-with-cannabis-oil-explains-how-it-works/#comment-14621
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Can you tell me how long medical marijuna by tinture takes to leave the body. I have a doctor’s appt. And am worried about that.
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I’ve never heard that it takes any less time than any other form of cannabis ingestion (up to 45 days). Your local health food store could help you with an herbal remedy that will clean your system, from what I have heard.
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I am making organic tincture using high quality GDP, smooth alcohols, natural sweeteners and flavors. It’s not as potent as those made with Everclear, so the dose is higher (half teaspoon) and it actually tastes yummy. It’s worked great as an anti-inflamitory for me. If I decide to make it available to others, what’s a fair price per ounce?
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I just filled my mason jar with vodka and OG Kush last night. I was told by a friend to let it soak for 2 months, shake it daily, and let it evaporate for a few days before using. The Kush was cured and smokable; I didn’t heat it in the oven. Am I wasting this ounce by not heating it? Is two months to long?
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I am also keeping it in a cool, dark, dry place.
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NO brotha your not wasting n oz you are just not going through the heating chemistry process explained in the posts above. But if heated correcty it turns thca to thc
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just keep it in a cool dark place for a week or 2 and use as needed with the bud still in it till 2 weeks for maximum potency since your not heating
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Anyone an address to recommend for best quality tincture of indica ?
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Hi, Thanks for the information. My mother kicked cancer 10 years ago but it now has returned. She had chemotherapy and surgery. We just found out about her new cancer. I have made the tincture.
The first two days it didn’t seem to have any effect on her. The third day I suggested having something oily/greasy in her stomach. She ate some nuts and she felt it. It put her to sleep for a few hours. The next day she lowered the dosage.
She has been using the tincture for almost a week. Then two days ago she said the tumor under arm started to swell. She stopped the tincture. Yesterday she laid of the tincture and she thinks the tumor may have gone down.
She wants me to find out if this is expected/wanted/not related to the tincture.
Does anyone know if using this treatment would cause the tumor to swell at the beginning of treatment? Or is it just doing what tumors do?
Any pointers are greatly appreciated,
Andrew
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It is not normal, especially after just a few of days. You might consider whether she is allergic to any of the ingredients. But I would recommend trying again after the swelling reduces or try alternate days until she can get accustomed to it and build up a bit more tolerance. Good luck.
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I don’t think a cancer can grow so sudenly, it is certainly inflammation which is good because it means the body has found the force to fight the cancer.
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Hey everyone, need your help. Trying to put a tincture together that will help with my chronic nerve pain. I’ve experimented with 2 so far, Alchool based and Glycerine. I find the Alchool tincture clouds my mind to much. The Glycerine I like but the effects is not strong enough. I left it in a crocpot for 24 hrs…. I did not cook the cannabis in the over before mixing in the crocpot. Those it make a big difference? Can anyone help me out.
Thanks,
Dan
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It does make a difference. Check out Phoenix Tears. (http://phoenixtears.ca/make-the-medicine/) They are making hemp oil which for all I can tell is that they boil it down further than the tincture. They use a rice cooker to boil off the solvent without vaporizing the parts you want to keep.
This site shows with lab results how long to bake the cannabis. http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/decarboxylating-cannabis-turning-thca-into-thc/
Hope that helps.
Andrew
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Any full proof strong recepie for Glycerine tincture
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I have a son that Is three years old. When I was pregnant he had a stroke. He was born with missing parts of his brain. He is visually impaired, epileptic, and a quadriplegic. His muscles are very tight and is constantly in pain. My son is currently on three medications and it seems like it doesn’t work. He takes Keppra and trileptol twice a day and valium at night. I have heard of parents giving this to their children and it stops the seizure and pain. I do not know where to get it so please if you can let me know where. It can help my son so much. I live in Los Angeles CA.
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I would send you to Dr Frankl http://www.greenbridgemed.com/ I t appears you can ask him your question at his site, or call his assistant Alex, at 310-821-9600.
I don’t live in LA, but from all I’ve seen and heard from this man over the years, I highly recommend him. Although cannabis is a nontoxic substance and has a proven track record of safety with children and babies, personally, I would consult a knowledgeable doctor, I just like to play it safe. Plus, you can get advice on what form is best, whether its a cookie or some oil. And advice on dosing and titration. Dr Fankl knows a lot about CBD, and perhaps your child could be helped by a non-THC, CBD-rich form of the medicine. From there, you can obtain a license and buy your medicine at a dispensary.
Maybe other readers who see this thread can make recommendations too?…
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Thank you so much.
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I put mine in a 1/2 oz spray and spray it on my knee as well as in my mouth! Works like a charm. I used 40% vodka, I’ll up the alcohol next time around. I make all sorts of balms, cremes and chap sticks This was my 1st tincture. The Oregon Medical Site has some really good ideas for cremes! I find the all coconut to be too heavy, I like some olive oil in there.
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You’ll get a better product if you use naptha.I don’t know who started this thing about using Vodka,but it’s wrong.Stop using liquors of any kind before someone gets killed.
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And you think naptha is safer than alcohol? Can’t make a tincture with naptha without fatal consequences. You can make a tincture from naptha extracted hash oil by putting it in some alcohol but that’s not the same thing as a tincture made of naptha.
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Bruce, why should we stop using liquors?
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Try this one: http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/1217451-dragon-liteanother-tincture-thread.html and this one is a longer version of the first. http://forum.grasscity.com/incredible-edible-herb/1102315-another-tincture-thread-try-youll-like.html
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Naptha is what Zippo lighter fluid is made of. Try sparking up a bowl,blunt or anything and see if that taste isn’t permanent. Straight up petroleum distillate=POISON. Injestion is harmful if not fatal.
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I am trying to find ways to concentrate tinctures to the point a drop or 2 sub-lingual would do the trick. Can I simple reduce already strong tinctures by letting the ethanol evaporate till its barley any and then find a way to add the glycerol for the better flavor.
I am rec certified and currently finishing a degree in psychology following substance abuse. Marijuana is more of a miracle than any other word Webster can throw at me. I know I rushed this blog but please, if there are some of you educated individuals out there that enjoy chemistry and the process of making cannabis available to people that need it but cant smoke it; please get in touch.
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I have a question regarding this process, and have an idea but I’m not sure it will work. Could I just put the cannabis in the oven and then let it soak in an alcohol mixture for a week or so? Will this combination of the hot and cold method be bad?
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Please can you help me with my breast cancer stage 3 so which shop in auckland can I buy cannabis oil to help with my cancer. Pls can you send the detail to jfatonuga@gmail.com.
thanks
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I have a question, I use the tincture at the moment it helps with my cancer and arthritis, my wife and I are about to go for IVK and will need blood tests will ‘marijuana’ show up in them
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I make a salve that has eliminated all the pain from (previously horrendously painful) peripheral neuropathy in feet. I make with org coconut oil and good bud. Happy to give recipe to anyone who would like it.
Also a question: I juice and then freeze high CBD fresh fan leaves. I was given Western Magic Glycerite tincture. I am trying to find a recipe to make a NON-psychoactive CBDA/THCA tincture with glycerin. I know it’s possible, but I can’t seem to find a recipe that doesn’t involve decarbing the cannabis. Can anyone help?
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I too suffer from neuropathy and would be very interested in your recipe.
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Hi Raqui,
I’m searching for this recipe too for my mom. Stage 4 breast cancer. She doesn’t wait to get “high,” and would never smoke it, so I thought we could whip up a tincture with glycerine. Have you had any luck finding one?
Your salve sounds great too; could I have the recipe?
Thank you!
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You might also try a CBD rich Rick Simpson oil – that’s the only way to really get rid of cancer using cannabinoids, and with the high CBD, the THC won’t have that “high” effect. On the right side of his blog, at top, you’ll see our most popular posts – check out the “24 year old” and “biochemist” posts, and let us know if you’ve got any questions.
If mom wants to also put it on topically (takes pain away and also helps kill cancer, but you need to ingest it too) she would have no trouble with the regular THC version, is it won’t get her high.
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I need help is tincture the same as cannabis oil my sister has cancer lung cancer and i need to know what to give her please help
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No – you want “Rick Simpson oil” – http://phoenixtears.ca/
For specific questions, address them to Dennis Hill in the comments section here: https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/biochemist-who-cured-his-stage-4-prostate-cancer-with-cannabis-oil-explains-how-it-works/
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Hi Christina and Jim,
Very simple recipe: I take a cup or two of Nutiva Organic Coconut Oil ($22 at Costco for 2 quarts/14oz), melt it in a saucepan, and then add a cup or two of dried trim – I usually put some bud in also to strengthen the potency. The measurements aren’t exact – I want to make sure there is enough liquid oil to have the cannabis happily swim around. Don’t boil – simmer for half hour/hour. Then I take buttercloth (washable cheesecloth), put it in a strainer over a bowl, and let it drip thru and when it’s cool enough, squeeze out the cloth to get out the last bit of liquid. Then I pour the liquid into whatever container/s I’ll be using – it will take a bunch of hours for it to firm up. And if the temp in the room is warm, the mixture will liquify – if cool, it hardens. Rather than have it melt and harden over and over again, I keep it in a cool place in the kitchen so that it is salve texture all the time. That’s it. In addition to my using it [aside: my neuropathy was so bad during the day and pain so sharp that it would wake me throughout the night – I was prescribed meds – neurontin, lyrica – that just made me stupid – and stopped those, and have had no pain since I began using the salve.] I use it in the a.m. before I put my socks on. Initially I used it both a.m. and before bed – I’d apply it and then put on ‘sleep socks’. Now I use it just a.m. And I named it: ‘Raqui’s Owie Be Gone’. Slick, eh? Any questions, feel free to email me: ‘raquibirdco@gmail.com’ Good luck with it! I hope this helps.
You find a recipe yet to make the THCA/CBDA tincture with glycerin?
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Great post. Thank you. The pesticide issue looks like a real thing which should be addressed, but doesn’t reflect on the ‘danger’ of making tinctures themselves. Wondering if the ‘danger danger’ vibe is not some corporate troll. Tincture is so easy, and so effective, when it comes to cannabis, it is a natural competitor to sativex spray slick pharma stuff. I’m always surprised when I hear about people using chems on cannabis, being a loner bumpkin and not ever thinking of growing my plants other than naturally. They seem pretty hardy, only need a little help with mold, but there are plenty of ways to combat mold without resorting to toxic chem sludge dna-mutilation sauce… Oh but silly me, I thought cannabis was an herb, and herbalism was inherently ‘organic’!
Anyhooo: another easy and foolproof ways of preserving the herb in an edible and spreadable form is to make a coconut oil salve/butter. Unlike olive oil, virgin coconut oil seems to never to go rancid. At room temperature it is solid like a salve, and when warmed, turns to a viscous oil. It has a more neutral odor than olive oil, and goes well with chocolate, another therapeutic herb many of us cannot do without! The resulting oil can be used in cooking, baking, spreading on toast, for skin care, massage. Remember: our skin is our biggest organ, and it is covered with pores. Great way to ‘consume’ your medicine…
I usually just make it in a double boiler on low until the smell is right and the color is dark green.
Coconut is a supermamamedicine plant in its own rights: antibacterial, antifungal, essential fats, anti-inflammatory, etc…
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I’m a newbie trying to learn the best method to medicate without smoking. The recommended Cold Method as described above is contrary to what I read in this article. Please clarify as I’m now very confused.
http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/decarboxylating-cannabis-turning-thca-into-thc/
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Hi, My daughter has seizures every day since 10 years ago, medicines do not controlet it. I want try with cannabis for her.. Is posible to find the cannabis tintura in Mexico? or How to obtein Sativa seeds por to make grow plants and after prepare the tintura?
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Sra. Sanchez, vea este video en Ingles y aprenda como hacer la medicina que usted busca. Recuerde – Muy Importante – una gotita, bajo la lengua es suficiente
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Hi
Great explananation
I cant digest alcohol I have allergic rxn to alcohol .Im wondering if I could go beyond 78 C increase in viscosity but not damage the THC structure
Mikee
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I have made a tincture with the alcohol but need to cook the alcohol off now. How do I make the cream and how much tincture do you put into the cream.
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After completing the cold method tincture, can the herb be left in the mixture and ingested? Added to beverage? Saves the mess of straining.
TB
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Filter through coffee filters or cheesecloth and then use the remaining mix of herb as a poltice, it helps my arthritic hands.
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4 TBI’s since 2005, and the pharmaceuticals were killing my spouse. The tincture we now have created actually stops the nausea! Now, is there something we can do for the tinitis? I heat chronic to 180 degrees for 20 minutes – (200 degrees was too warm, leaving residue on my glass plate). Then I alcohol extract (everclear, 95%) and after a week concentrate to 1/4 of the amount filtered through a few layers of cheesecloth.. 1 dry ounce of chronic gives me 1 fluid ounce of tincture. I hope this helps. It is the recipe that works for us.
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Are there any cannabis extracts, for medical use, that are NOT psychotropic; that don’t make the user high?
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Yes, look into “CBD”.
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Organophosphates in weed. Like Paraquat, Malathion or Round-Up? Gimme a break. Old DEA rumor.
BTW, a Glycerol extraction at 375 F makes liquid ‘vape’.
3.2 grams dried Sour Diesel, 1.25 fl. oz. vegetable glycerol.
Heat glycerol to 375 F, stir in small amounts of dried powdered herb until all mixed in. Will foam up, so add in small amounts. Cook at temp for 5 minutes, some bubbling will occur.
Stop cooking when herbals are dark brown.
Strain WHILE STILL HOT through 70 micron stainless steel mesh, allow to cool.
Result is amber-brown while hot, on cooling becomes cloudy orange/brown. Smells/tastes FanTuckingFastic.
Much thicker that original glycerol.
Under 250x magnification, tincture is featureless ‘milky’ in appearance.
Possibly a Clathrate?
BTW, dissolves completely in cold water. Milky looking, but no settling out after 8 hours in refrigerator.
Hemp Lemonade, anyone?
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And the heat won’t decarboxylate the cannabis?
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Thanks to sites like this, the disabled can seek relief from the pain !
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I’m going to a dispensary tomorrow a.m. hoping to get a tincture that will help with chronic arthritis.
I know the dispenser will make suggestions but wonder if someone has had direct experience with a particular strain.
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If I haven’t used in more than sick months and use a drop under the tongue how long will it take for it to clear out of my system?
Great information!
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Cannabinoids are detectable for weeks, no matter what method is used to ingest them. If there is some difference in this time frame due to your 6 months off, I am not aware of it. Cheers!
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I have a question regarding the kind of alcohol for use in making tincture. Would the following types be suitable for tinctures for oral use?
1. Ethanol 95% GPR, C2H5OH with the following maximum levels of impurities
Water, 0.4%
Acidity as CH3COOH, 0.001ml
Iso-propanol, 5N%
n-propanol, 0.10%
Carbolnyis as MEK, 0.40%
2. Ethanol 95% GPR C2H5OH with the following maximum levels of impurities
Water, 1%
Acidity or alkalinity, 0.1ml N%
Non-volatile matter, 0.01%
Aldehydes and ketones [(CH3)2CO, 0.05%]
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where can i purchase medical cannabis timcture
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At your local dispensary – it’s very common.
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i have a license for medical cannabas tinture works best for me please give me a sites for purchase
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Please advise me where I can get some of the medical tincture.
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How do I make a Cbd tincture with low or no THC?
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Without heat THCa cannot become THC, the psychoactive form of the chemical. Alcohol (everclear 190 proof) for a week on chronic, then put through a coffee filter, evaporate 50% of the alcohol and administer sublingually. I have used dry ice (to keep out all water soluble part of the plant) and the resulting tincture did not work like using the whole plant and processing at room temperature. The alcohol flash point is very low so don’t work with it around an open flame.
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I made some cold tinture using grain alcohol, I let reduce outside until it was a thicker dark amber color, bottled it, had a little left in the bowl and let reduce to dark sticky substance………..I am new at making this……….Im figuring my bottled stuff should be pretty good…I dont do the alcohol so that is why I reduced it…..was I right……havent tried it yet…what do I do with the tarry stuff ?
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Good afternoon,
I recently was having severe back pain, as I have suffered Chronic Back pain as a result of a Spinal Fusion.
A neighbor provided me with a cup of tea, it helped my pain immensly!!!!
My concern was when I asked her what kind of tea it was, she replied Pimmagranite tea and a tincture of marijuana in it. I was upset, not because it worked, but because I am an RN and also in Pain Management where I am drug tested with a urine test when I see my pain management provider.
If I test Positive for THC, I will be terminated from Pain Management AND the Nursing Board will be notified of my urine test.
How long does the THC remain in my urine after drinking this tea mixed with a Tincture of Marijuana.
There is NO DOUBT that I received relief for my Chronic Back pain and Arthritus pain, but I am not in a position of understanding providers nor a State Board of Nursing. Can you please advise?
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I found this:
Marijuana has a half-life in your system. How long it takes to leave your system depends on how much you smoke. But the time maxes out at around 45 days. One smoking session for someone with a clean system takes about 3-4 days to be clean. Smoke 2 days later and then have to wait about a week, and so on. The time it will take roughly doubles every time you smoke until it maxes at about 45 days to be clean. So if you are maxed out and you wait about 2 weeks and then smoke again, you’re basically back to 45 days.
Marijuana can be detected in urine for nearly a week after smoking. Blood tests can be more accurate, and it might take a month to be totally clear. Hair tests show every drug ever taken when that hair was growing – this is why you see so many drug addicts with shaved heads or buzz cuts, by the way. Also by the way: taking laxatives and drinking wacky chemicals won’t “cheat” a drug test. It will just make you go to the bathroom! These drug tests are designed by experts who anticipate what the drug user might do.
Be very careful of “remedies” for getting around drug tests. They flat out do not work and could do damage to your body.
Source:
Family of Nurses
From here https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120629221630AATWctI
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my friend eats it in treats once in awhile( 2 to 5 times a month) and had to take drug tests and she passes every time, because they allow for a little bit before they fail you
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Great site , I wish I discovered it last year .I have stage 4 breast cancer .The dr. gave me 4-5 months . When I asked her for a prescription for cannabis I got it within a week . At first I did`nt know what to do with the buds ,I can`t smoke them because they made me cough . I googled all I could to find about edible cannabis and started making tincture ,with great results ,the markers are going down and down . The dr.stopped prescribing cancer drugs which did`nt help and just made me feel sick and misserable and said I should just use the cannabis . After seeing the video about a safe way to make oil I decided to make it. At the dispensary I was told that I can`t get it here ( I live in Israel )
My question Is : Can I use different strains together to make the oil .One sativa high THC and one indica with just CBD and less then 1% THC.
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Dina – as far as I know you can process several strains of buds in the same way you process a single strain. Or you could process the strains singly and mix the oil extract. The solvent and thermometer don’t care about what strain you are using. Buds is buds. ~Dennis
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My dad has liver cancer and we’er interested in medical cannabis some please contact me back, but please don’t waist both are times with anything less the best…. Thank you
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hi all my friend has stage 4 pancreatic cancer he is on chemo but feeling very sick and in a lot of pain he also gets constipated and relies on laxitives and oxicontan pain meds. He is a young 62 and he is devastated that he may die as the doctors do not show much hope. i live on the gold coast australia and mj is totally illegal but we want to try anything that will help him to not just cure pain but kill the cancer so he can live a healthy life. Is this possible with mj. Please be straight up as he is very suspicious of illegal drugs and i need to convince him as i DO NOT !!! want to go to yet another funeral of a young person who hasnt even smoked a cigarette ever. Has anyone ever been totally cured. please share your survival stories we need hope. love and hugs you all and i wish you health and happiness
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I would recommend you read this post https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/biochemist-who-cured-his-stage-4-prostate-cancer-with-cannabis-oil-explains-how-it-works/ and feel very free to ask Dennis any questions you have.
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thankyou so much for the info very facinating. i am on chemo tablets for high platelets its called hydrea and ive been on this for around 6 yrs the side effects are not good and im wondering if the oil could possibly help me get off this medication and live a healthy drug free life any info would be apprciated thankyou
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also im curious to see if anyone has tried MMS by mr humble it is supposed to clear up all cancers and more
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Are the medicinal effects of a high CBD tincture made from industrial hemp with no THC, not a Schedule 1 drug, different than than a tincture made from marijuana? What is the recommended milligrams of CBD for one to purchase for of a tincture of industrial hemp were one to not want to get high, as it’s the THC that’s in marijuana (cannabis) that gets on high. Cannabis tinctures made from industrial hemp are being sold on the Internet, but I have no idea if the tinctures work and what patients are saying about cannabis tinctures made from industrial hemp that contains high CBD and no THC. There are many people who are either uninformed or misinformed as to whether to buy industrial hemp tinctures or other products that contain high CBD and no THC. I’m elderly and have rhumatiod arthritis and a friend gave me a tincture made from marijuana and it worked to relieve pain but it also got me high and I don’t want to be high. I only want the relief from pain and don’t want to take a tincture of medicinal marijuana as there’s always a trace of THC in medical marijuana with a high concentration of CBD, thus making medical marijuana a Schedule 1 drug, as contrasted with a tincture of high CBD made from industrial hemp. Both the industrial hemp and marijuana are cannabis but only one is legal to sell and legal to purchase, the one made from industrial hemp. Now I want to know if it’s worth purchasing a tincture of high CBD made from industrial hemp or is it better to purchase a tincture made from medical marijuana. The answer to this question is crucial for those who don’t want to got high, and only want pain relief or muscle relaxation. Thank you.
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Great read. I have MS and need some before I end my life.
Thanks please talk to me
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I have paralysis from my upper chest on down, and we may deal with similar issues. I would argue that this is the best medicine for problems related to nerve damage, muscle spacticty, general pain, and the related depression that accompanies all of this after a while…
If you don’t live in a state with a medical cannabis program, what I usually recommend is prayer. It has worked for me for many years. What you need will be provided.
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I use marijuana medicinally. But smoking it makes it very difficult to go places. And due to federal law you can’t travel with it….ie fly out of state even to another state that allows for medicinal marijuana, fly to another country, or even just fly to anther city within Ca. Would you be able to travel with a tincture? Is it detectable by the K9s? What are the allowances and/or restrictions behind traveling with a tincture?
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Thank you for the most helpful Information. The world needs to be using what God has given to help ourselves to health. I’m in my 14th year of living with cancer. No more chemo, radiation or surgeries. Had enough and am doing it myself this time….no poisoning, burning or cutting this time. Using already and so far so good!
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The cold method does not work. Thc is absorbed much better after decarboxylation, which, as far as I can tell is not included in the above cold method. Green dragon tincture is the only one that works. There is a recipe complete with proportions under “master wu’s green dragon tincture”. It works.
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my uncle has diabetes really bad and is in stage 3 kidney failure ….PLEASE HELP… do I use the tincture or the oil to help him ??? and I would also appreciate some comments from people whom this has helped their diabetes as he is not sure about trying it ….
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Shawn – some research shows that CBD and THCV cannabinoids are helpful in diabetes. Since benefit derives mainly from CB1 and CB2 receptors, the oil would be the most potent medicine in this case. There have been animal studies on this but no human trials. Best of luck. ~Dennis
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The table on the effects of Indica and Sativa are nothing more than urban myth. When will this nonsense stop being passed off as fact?
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Where IS the truth so we can post it instead?
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Years of lab testing in Calif and around the world has shown the terms indica and sativa are only useful to tell what the plant May have looked like in it’s original environment. There is NO chemical structure that is indica or sativa. Cannabis is biphasic it both energizes and relaxes. Usually the first effects are energizing, later the relaxation kicks in. It first kills your appitite then later it gives you the munchies. Low doses can have the opposite effect of a high dose. The so called couchlock is nothing more than you smoked too much just like drinking too much.
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Hi, I’ve been reading a lot of different methods to making tincture. I do like your green dragon method unfortunately I’m a little scared of the cooking alcohol part. Do you think I would achive a good tincture by just adding the alcohol to the already cooked cannabise?
Lou
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To place under tongue you said half and half…Cause my stright tinc.burns the skin off almost..So half water/half tinc..== abillity to hold…?
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Yes, just add some water. Maybe even try honey?
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I wish if seen this info earlier I bought recently in thè
past two ozs for with 28 prct CBD plus about 6 other cannainoids but it does burn my throat is that ok?
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That burn is just from the alcohol – you can dilute the tincture with water and it won’t burn anymore 🙂
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Stop my pain and depression. I don’t care any more . That or the bridge .
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Edibles can help a lot with depression. The reason for this is that cannabinoids from cannabis treat depression, but almost always one cannot enough of the medicine from just smoking.
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I had a question the tincture was left in the heat for two days, can it go bad?
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No, it should be fine as far as I know.
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I was wondering about mixing strains. I like to have a one to one ratio of CBD and THC or at least have the CBD be close to the THC. I recently bought some high CBD that had almost no THC but it didn’t help me very much. So I was wondering about mixing this with something that had more THC in it. I once tried a vape pen of bluedream that had a THC 30% and CBD 10% and was great. Has anyone else mixed their strains for their tinctures?
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Morbie – Mixing strains is good. Go here for Omrita strain that is 3:2 CBD:THC.:
http://www.botanadiol.com/medication
Go here for Cannatonic/BD… which is a blend of Cannatonic and Blue Dream, that is 4:3 THC:CBD:
http://oilsprout.com
~Dennis
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Just begun using GOHO topically and am getting amazing results.Why not apply it or Ric Simpson et al directly to the prostate gland instead of ingesting it?
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Hi, my name is Cheri Buddrius I live in Temecula CA. My daughter is stage 4 best cancer. I have been getting a tincture called Innovative, extractions 165mg and CBD 100mg. It is organic in either grape seed oil other hemp seed oil. This product seems fine but it is expensive. I read your site and found it helpful.
My question is, how would I be able to get your product and what is the cost?
Thank you so very much for your help, I appreciate it!
Cheri Buddrius
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Cheri – if you are trying to cure cancer with tincture, I think it is much weaker than the cannabis extract oil, by a factor of at least 10. Yes it is expensive, but probably less expensive than traditional medical strategies. Given the recent growth of the industry, I’m hoping prices will come down. For cancer, please consider the oil. ~Dennis
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Thanks, Dennis
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my mom tyook this for the first time today and just one little drop and she has been puking tell me this is normal!!
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She has lung cancer so a friend of mine got it for her and gave her a little drop on a chip and now shes really not feeling well at all now she is napping but she puking almost 10 times from the one little drop.
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I have heard that e cancer will actually come up through vomit in some cases. She is fine, the tincture can’t hurt her. I’ll have someone more knowledgable respond shortly….
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I doubt that the cannabis in the tincture would cause distress. It might be that a toxic solvent was used to make the tincture. Hard to tell without a good lab analysis. ~Dennis
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i truly like the tincture idea it seem safe and better for you.
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I followed a video on hear 3hrs old boy talks slow. And wasted 3grams. It does nothing. Will try again leaving for a couple of weeks nxt time. So many contradictions?? Got MS. Don’t smoke anymore don’t want to start again so tincture sounded great,, Disapponted.
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Hi there, i have a spinal cord injury so suffer from muscle spacity ( i believe that is somewhat similar to what you suffer from ). Tincture is in no way powerful enough to treat my spacticity. Look into making coconut oil infused with cannabis, or cannabutter. Then you can take a spoonful of that when needed (or at night so you won’t feel the high) – it’s much much much stronger than tincture.
Please let us know if you have any other questions, and i am so sorry that you wasted bud. Perhaps someone here can comment on how you might be able to salvage it.
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Thanks. I will google how to make that. Spasticity yes. Legs tight so causing mobility probs and balance. Which is strange to me being as I was a dance teacher and tai boxer. For fun. Not pro. Nuro meds suck,, so trying alternative but making a pigs ear of it at moment. Thanks for tip, if you have instructions I would appreciate.
Thanks again
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It’s a learning process, to be sure.
Start by trying something like this https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/cannabis-chocolate-my-cure-for-depression/
Then you can try making a bigger batch (and you can then add the oil to anything – foods, tea, or just on a spoon)
https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/cannabis-infused-coconut-oil/
You’ll get used to the larger amounts of cannabinoids in time, but might feel lethargic or high at first. You need to let yourself just sleep as needed – this is (as I’m sure you know) a major part of the healing process. So experiment with larger doses when you can take some time off in case you need to nap.
Also, you might try taking a larger dose before bed, then perhaps one or two small doses (not enough to get high) during the day.
There’s a lot of experimenting you will have to do before really getting the proper dosage, but the experimenting process is fun and safe and very, very healing.
Ultimately, we want to be taking “Rick Simpson oil” – but until this is more easily available, the oil is just fine.
Here is more about the RSO https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/rick-simpson-the-cannabis-conspiracy-hemp-oil-healing-rockefeller-medicine/
Keep in touch and let us know how things go!!
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Hi. Iv listened to rick Simpson and think he is amazing. But unless you grow your own it’s so expensive to make oil. Iv tried all ways. But ended up putting herb in a vaperiser. Seems ok. I stopped smoking couple years ago.
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If you’re trying to treat cancer, you have to use the concentrate (oil) as smoking or gaping does not administer enough cannabinoids to do the trick.
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I just ran everclear through this cannabis to make oil. I did not decarb. Now with the remaining I want to make a tincture. Is it now too dangerous to decarb the weed…It obviously is drenched in everclear….and why doesn’t the process of heating the liquid when you are boiling off perform decarb?
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Decarboxylation can be a gradual process. Some decarboxylation occurs just in drying. More takes place in heating. Full decarboxylation occurs heating the cannabis/solvent to 240º F. for an hour. If you do this, the THC is decarboxylated; that is, has shaken off the CO2 carboxyl group that keeps THCA from awakening the cannabinoid receptor CB1. ~Dennis
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I would recommend a clean organic sugar cane based alcohol. And the cold brew method is the most pure, and best for plant and for the person. I let my brew for 30 days.
i use it as a topical pain relief as well. Does wonders for bruising and joint pain.
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That’s all very well but, you need a lot of herb to get a little juice, using the alcohol extraction. I use a herb burning vaporizer. Pop a little in. About 3 puffs. Plenty. I sleep really well now. Lol.
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Thanks for reply. No not cancer. I have progressive MS. So it was for relief from the tight muscular feeling in legs mainly. Though I would rather the oil. Just easier to vamp??
Regards
Graham.
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Has anyone else tried the water bath method with a mason jar? Bc they are not oven-safe, nor are they safe for use in a water bath…I absentmindedly followed these instructions and as soon as I placed the jar containing ground-up cannabis & alcohol in the 150 degree water bath the bottom of the jar popped off causing its contents to fall out into the water and leaving me with a useless tube of glass that used to be my favorite mason jar. :[ I realized the blip in my critical thinking because, seriously, how could I not have realized the jar would have to be oven safe 😐 SO the moral of the story is, use an oven safe glass container if you so choose to do a water bath.
However, I don’t think the water bath is even necessary…
Once my canna-alcohol mixture was inextricably mixed in with the water, I fished out the glass bottom of the mason jar and decided to just cut my losses and make a watered down tincture instead. So I monitored the temp of the mixture, keeping it around 160-165 degrees for 40 minutes (I doubled the time since there was quite a bit of water in it) and made sure the fan over my stove was on the whole time. Perhaps the water in the mixture made it safer to directly heat up the alcohol but I have a feeling a water bath is redundant since either way the alcohol is being heated up in its container to 150-165 degrees….just be careful to monitor the temp.
Lastly, these instructions for the Green Dragon method say you need to decarboxylate the cannabis via the oven method and then do it again in the water bath…isn’t this also redundant?
Once I try and titrate my tincture I’ll report back with it’s results in the name of bolstering internet-based experimentation & research :] lol because seriously this is my first time making a canna-tincture and the amount of conflicting advice on how to make them is overly abundant
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I really appreciate this feedback – it’s surprising you’re the first to mention this glaring omission: must be oven safe!
Let us know how it goes, and we will have to rewrite this aril ce a bit.
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Benefits of cannabis/white willow bark tincture for pain
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I want to make marijuana tincture ,in my home.Financial in my country do I enable 1 gram marijuana.I suffer from obsessive compulsive neurosis,I need medical use.My question is how many drops of tincture of marijuana It should be used in my case?
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What I’ve heard is that you just “titrate” – experiment on yourself until you find the exact right dosage for you. Also your tincture will have different potency each time you make it, so no one can really tell you how much to take. Please let us know if you have any questions.
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Thanks for the reply.Understand.In this case I have to make a personalized dose.
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Question for you guys!
I take Cannabis tincture in my tea and it works great for my chronic pain. The only thing is that I’ve been losing quite a bit of weight. DIàid a bounch of tests and everything seems ok. I know it makes your metabolism faster but could the tincture make me lose weight? Anyone
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Yes, it could be.
http://healthland.time.com/2011/09/08/marijuana-slims-pot-smoking-linked-to-lower-body-weight/
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/05/study-why-pot-smokers-are-skinnier/275846/
http://www.businessinsider.com/pot-smokers-are-skinnier-and-healthier-2013-5
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(replace “pot smokers” with “cannabis users” – tincture counts too!)
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What kind of tincture is it? I was losing weight with oil capsules and had to quit because of finances and have gained most of the weight back. I want to start back up now but I’m hoping to find something without the psychoactive effects that will still promote weight loss. Does your tincture have psychoactive effects? Thanks!
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It would depend on whether the material you use to make the medicine contains a high amount of THC, and how much CBD it has.
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Can you unpack that a little for me? I’ve had both a drink and a tincture that were high in THC that were NOT psychoactive at all… which I think is because it has to be heated to a certain temp before it becomes psychoactive? Anyway, what I’m wondering is if a non-psychoactive tincture will cause weight loss… and is it the THC that causes it or the CBD?
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I’m sorry, I don’t know. I found this http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/10/13/the-incredible-effects-of-cannabis-on-weight-loss-and-metabolism/ but i’m not sure science has unpacked the exact mechanism at play here, i don’t see where anyone has discussed the distinction between THC and CBD on weight loss.
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The tincture that I buy doesn’t have alcool. It’s from a dispensary. It is pretty strong and works great for me as I can measure it better by drops. The only thing is I have lost quite a bit of weight even if I eat more than usual.
Dan
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The tincture that I use can give you quite a buzz but if you experiment with the amount of drops, it works great. example: I will put 3 drops in my tea in the morning and one or two hours later my pain is very manageable for at least 6 hours and I ok to work.
Dan
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I have yet to use a tincture that worked. When baked with food the THC isn’t active until fat is mixed with it and heated, with the THC then the THC active for your body to digest. Read about cooking with cannabis.
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Hi,
Thank you for this website. It is a life saver.
I am 32 male. Recently diagnosed with adhd -pi and put on methyl phenidate. I am looking into medical marijuana.
Please give me the appropriate line of treatment as to be alert and focus and concentrate a good six to eight hours during day for work.
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Most of the literature on PTSD and cannabis cite THC as most neuroprotective and most effective in PTSD. But you do not want the mental effects of THC. We know that CBD is highly beneficial, and it does inhibit the mental effects of THC, in the right proportion. You could try a high CBD mix with THC, where CBD is 60% or greater. This gives you both the benefits of CBD as well as the therapeutic THC without the buzz.
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if you put some tincture on a blunt perhaps or on a joint would you get the effects?
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I recommend you read this information may be useful at any time by management of the company
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Here’s how I decarb & make whole plant tinctures: http://www.LeBlancCNE.com/tinctures/
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This is how I decarb & make cannabis tinctures: http://www.LeBlancCNE.com/tinctures/
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Guess what Jerry, orally means through the mouth. I think what you meant is the difference between sublingual and edible.
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Is this safe to use with liver cancer?
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I would go with the oil concentrate, you woulnd’t want the alcohol in tincture. Plus, if you’re looking to cure the cancer, you need to use the “hemp oil” also known as Rick Simpson oil.
https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/biochemist-dennis-hill-who-cured-his-stage-4-prostate-cancer-with-cannabis-oil-explains-how-it-works-2/
I would recommend reading the above linked article, and if you have any questions, leave them in the comments and Dennis will answer them.
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Hey guys, anyone been loosing weight on tincture? Lost around 25 pounds. Did a bunch of tests and everything seems ok. Please let me know.
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Hey guys, anyone loosing weight while taking tincture?
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can anyone help me with my last post!
Hey guys, anyone been loosing weight on tincture? Lost around 25 pounds. Did a bunch of tests and everything seems ok. Please let me know.
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I have t had much luck with tinctures. I think I used to much Ever clear. If I switch to a high octaine rum, what can I flavor it with. I had that a strong cordial. But I don’t drink, so I’m clueless.
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I’m really not a fan of tincture, my body seems to have trouble with the alcohol. cannabutter works much better.
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Hi. How long do you simmer the alcohol/plant matter before straining?
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The tincture that I buy doesn’t have alcool. It’s from a dispensary. It is pretty strong and works great for me as I can measure it better by drops. The only thing is I have lost quite a bit of weight even if I eat more than usual. Anyone have this problem?
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•I use Tincture in the dark brown bottle.
•I also use oral spray of 99% CBD Pure Extract
•Plus 1/4 gummy bear to (don’t recall the name)
My question – are there any adverse reactions to take this or has anyone had an allergic reaction to the above mentioned.
I asked because I’ve begun to itch, on & off through the day & since I’m on 3 different ones I was wondering could I be allergic to any of the above ?
Thank you in advance for your prompt attention in this matter
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i would suggest removing anything with alcohol – you can try to get a tincture made with something other than alcohol, or just skip it for a while and see if you’re still itching. i suspect alcohol, because this is how i react too.
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what’s one dropper equivalent to like dosage wise?
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You can titrate to figure out the right dosage, but the dosage will change over time too as your body acclimates to the cannabinoids.
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what is cannabis oil
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you might try Googling “Rick Simpson oil” and you will get your answer, otherwise let us know.
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I grow my own high THC plants (and take a capsule of CBD every day so I don’t worry about the balance with THC). I cure and decarboxylate in the oven at 200 degrees for as long as it takes to dry the plant material.
I grind that up in a food processor, place it in a Mason jar and cover with GemClear, a cheaper alternative to EverClear. If you frequent a particular liquor store, they may get it in just for you and others like you. Fortunately for me, my liquor store owner is also a mmj patient.
I let it macerate for at least a week, strain out the plant material with a coffee filter in a metal strainer and then heat it at a low temperature on my ceramic cook top until it doesn’t bubble anymore. I pour that into a brown glass bottle with eye dropper. I take my tincture before bed for pain relief and insomnia. It lasts 2-3 hours before I awake and take another dose. I have to get up to pee anyway, so my rhythm has adapted to take another dose at that time.
When I have another plant ready, I often add it to the previous mixture, having added more GemClear to the remaining plant material from the time before. When I feel it’s given me all it can, I compost the plant material along with my coffee grounds and tea leaves.
I have multiple health issues and cannabis addresses most of them. I just wish the research were being done (in the US) on what and how the other cannabinoids do. It seems the only honest countries, doing this important research, are Israel and Spain.
Check out youtube: search for “cannabis research Spain” and/or “cannabis research Israel” or “cannabis research Rafael Mecheulam.” Mecheulam is in clinical trials (human subjects) using the cannabinoid 8-AG (or is it AG-8?) for mending broken bones and preventing/treating osteoporosis. Dr. Sanchez and Guzman of Spain have shown how cannabis kills cancer in half a dozen ways, so far only in rodents with cancer and human cancer cells in the lab. But there are many anecdotes from patients, who have been told by oncology to go home and prepare to die, who have taken high concentrations of cannabis oil and have beaten their cancers.
We need the research to tell us what the effective dosage should be, for all the symptoms that cannabis defeats or treats.
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Could you use the tincture during contractions and to ease labor pain? Would it have a paranoia & fear effect as you sometimes can get from smoking it. Or could you put the tincture on your skin, l heard that you don t then get THC but it somehow still reliefs pain.
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It definitely relives pain when used topically – i’m not sure about using tincture as the alcohol might burn. You could find a salve or make one, or use cannabis-infused coconut oil. Tincture can make you paranoid, edibles might be a better option for dealing with the pain and anxiety.
This is just my two cents though, and i don’t know much so hopefully we can hear from others who have actually gone through labor.
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Hi, where can I buy medical cannabis tincture ?
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Dispeñsaries have them, and they’re easily made by hand if you want.
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How do I get hold of this please I’m desperate i have ms and after i read the deception
Of this I know I had to have some so hopefully talk really soon to her me back to good health thank
You Emma .
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You can get this at any dispensary.
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We live in QLD and my husband has an ABI AND THE ONLY THING THAT HELPS HIM IS MARUJAUNA. How or who do we see to start the process for him to receive it. Thankyou.
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Do you have any dispensaries in your area?
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I have crps, would tinctures help me at all? I have smoked before & it failed to help with pain, also I do not like that high feeling.
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I don’t know. But my kneejerk reaction would be to recommend NOT tinctures, but an oil based cannabis concoction (or “edibles”). I believe cannabis can help your pain, and I do understand not wanting to feel high.
Here’s what I would say: go to a dispensary and get a CBD-only as well as 1/2 CBD, 1/2 THC cannabis oil. It will probably be a coconut oil, but if they only have butter that’s fine too.
Take it before bed. If the THC-containing oil makes you high, you’ll be sleeping through it, and will wake up able to function (esp. after you have your coffee).
You can take the CBD-only oil during the day. I’m just not sure how effective it will be for pain. The science thus far shows that THC is the real powerhouse for all types of pain. But I’m not sure how much science there is to support this same effect from CBD.
One thing to note is that CBD does “mellow” the “high” from THC, that is why i recommend going for 1/2 and 1/2 – even though it contains THC, it won’t make you feel as high as the cannabis we’re used to smoking, whihc is bred to be very high in THC and sometimes contains almost no CBD 😦
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Good day, I have a son that has had epilepsy from the age of 6weeks. He is 7 now and heaven thanks has been seizure free for almost 3 years,but he is still on his meds. However he has had a development delay.
My question is can tincture oil be made from hash.
Thank you
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Hi Nazlie, this is such an important question, I feel like you should take it somewhere with professionals to answer. I am just an armchair researcher, and we do have a biochemist here to answer questions, but i’m not sure he would know what to say about this. I will check.
The tincture and the oil are 2 different things. I would not recommend the tincture as it is alcohol based and not really very strong compared with oil.
Let me see what I can dig up for you, and please see about asking an actual doctor, or check with someone at your local dispensary. If you don’t have those available, that’s OK, we’ll find a resource that can help you I am sure.
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Thank you so much. I will. I really appreciate it.
I really love the site and appreciate that you take the time to help people like me (who is trying to help our loved ones out. Or should I say desperate for help in my case). Thank you so much.
Regards Nazlie
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Nazlie, do you still have questions?
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Thank you so much for this information. It answered a lot of my questions.
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What causes red tincture instead of green?
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How to sensibly buy LEGAL cbd oil? Because I got a letter saying customs has confiscated my package two times already and I’m pissed.
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You can buy it legally on Amazon and other sites, as HEMP oil. CBD is the same whether it comes from cannabis or hemp. I prefer the brands originating in Canada, as in Manitoba Harvest. I avoid any that may have come from China.
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How long can I store the tincture once I have successfully made it?
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I found this:
“the tincture should be kept in a cool, dark place. Yet cannabis preserved in ethanol has a long shelf life. Tincture medicines do not come with an expiry date.” https://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2003/10/02/3005
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And here’s a more intense review of the issue https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5064247/
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I am in real pain and would like Mariguana tincture.I need to know where to buy it and how much please desperate pensioner.
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Hi Patricia, do you have any marijuana dispensaries near you? They would have it! You might consider trying oil-based cannabis too, some find it more potent and effective than tincture.
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